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Dwayla t1_j5l4t2z wrote

A complete and total hero, bless him

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Thedrunner2 t1_j5l5fr8 wrote

Saved many lives that day. Awesome job.

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Chadmartigan t1_j5l5ocd wrote

>"He started prepping the weapon and something came over me," Tsay recalled. "I realized I needed to get the weapon away from him. I needed to take this weapon, disarm him or else everybody would have died."

The "something" was the immense gravitational field exerted by his balls.

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LimitedSwimmer t1_j5l6dxj wrote

No good guy with a gun needed just a little effort or maybe a drag queen with heels.

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impulsekash t1_j5l734w wrote

Fight or flight is a hell of an experience.

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Terrible-Terry t1_j5l8w9w wrote

Amazing example that real heroes don’t need flashy uniforms, don’t need deadly weapons and don’t need intimidating features.

The only true prerequisite is the courage to step up.

All the other things are “nice to haves,” but without the courage to step up, all the bells and whistles are useless.

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ScreamingMemales t1_j5l94p4 wrote

Is the shooter's race known? Looks like an Asian guy in this picture.

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hello_world_wide_web t1_j5lbvpj wrote

Perfect example of being in the right place at the right time!

A very awkward interview by Roberts, however....

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sdforbda t1_j5lf864 wrote

Replying to HerpToxic (#1,456,522)

I was so surprised finding out that he was 72 when the initial reports said somewhere between 30 and 50. It's hard to imagine anybody doing what he did but a 72-year-old?!

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Dumdumgirlsbeeep t1_j5lf8l2 wrote

I’d say he was overcome with bravery and courage. What a hero ♥️ He no doubt saved lives that night

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DrDragun t1_j5lgcmo wrote

We all like to believe we'd do the same thing, but if you aren't expecting a situation and only have fleeting seconds to realize and act then 90% of us would choke. Hopefully this guy is treated like a hero around town for the rest of his life.

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spookyghosties t1_j5ljeo0 wrote

At this point, it's not a matter of "Will I encounter gun violence?" It's WHEN. If we all plan on living here for another few decades we need to expect gun violence may impact us and our communities and to be ready when it does.

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arealhumannotabot t1_j5ll8s7 wrote

Every 'video' I click on is just stills from the security camera

c'mon., I wanna see some badassery!

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biggoof t1_j5lmksz wrote

Braver than those Uvalde PD folks.

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Nini_Errante t1_j5lobl8 wrote

I hope there would be more heroic politicians as this heroic bystander.

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WaitingForNormal t1_j5lp1pl wrote

So the bad guy with a gun was stopped by a good guy without a gun.

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spyder728 t1_j5lssy8 wrote

I find it crazy how Tsay took over the gun but just tell the gunman to go away. I would've fired the whole magazine back on the guy if the guy moves a single muscle.

Let's be real, it is the US. Most gun owners have more than 1 gun. All mass shooters have more than 1 gun.

I ain't taking my chance like the guy did. This ain't some kiddie superhero movie "heroes don't kill" shit, this is survival.

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zwaaa t1_j5lt2cf wrote

Did it without a gun too.

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cinnamon-swirl-girl t1_j5ltbzd wrote

Replying to spyder728 (#1,458,185)

the kid is only 26 years old and i dont think he is the type to fire a gun at somebody if its not absolutely nessessary. Everyone is different and they respond to stress and situations differently. He is a family member of the owner of Lai Lai dance studio

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rubyblue0 t1_j5ltuk2 wrote

I like to think I would do something, but in the moment, I’d probably freeze up entirely. Kudos to the young man.

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SatisfactionNaive370 t1_j5lxjug wrote

Responsibility is but our response to our abilities.

He had the ability to disarm the gunman and responded heroically.

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DeadSharkEyes t1_j5m0e65 wrote

Those who have the “fight” trait (in the best way) are bad asses. I know I don’t have it. Deepest respect, and I hope he gets some counseling for post traumatic stress.

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bananafobe t1_j5m1esd wrote

Replying to Dumdumgirlsbeeep (#1,458,346)

If it helps, there are benefits to freezing during extreme circumstances, including enabling you to focus and possibly protecting against the development of PTSD related symptoms.

We often think of freezing as an inadequate response, but part of that is because we tend to consider it in situations like this (where it almost certainly wouldn't have been a helpful response), as opposed to situations wherein remaining calm enabled someone to navigate a potentially dangerous situation, and where it may not have been obvious that a "freeze" response was part of what enabled someone to remain calm.

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Dumdumgirlsbeeep t1_j5m1yft wrote

Replying to bananafobe (#1,459,002)

You are so kind thanks for this. And truthfully I’m always the calm head in a crisis (the one to calm the patient, call 911 etc) so maybe that’s my gift. Hopefully if I’m ever in a situation like this there’s a Brandon Tsay around 😊

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Theonetheycallgreat t1_j5m4v27 wrote

Replying to TheFearAndLoathing (#1,459,104)

Or go to a concert, or shop for groceries, or go out to eat, or go to school, or drive on the highway, or drive on a backroad, or jog on a backroad, or jog on a main road, or walk at night, or walk at day.

At this point in America there is not one activity that is safe from being the target of a shooting.

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Demiansmark t1_j5m4yv2 wrote

Replying to TheFearAndLoathing (#1,459,104)

I don't think 'everyone' will be exposed to gun violence but saying that you won't unless you're around gangs or have one yourself is incredibly naive.

Personally, I'm early 40s, never owned or wanted to own a firearm or have been involved in 'gangs'. In the last 20 years I've been at a bar where two guys came in with guns and started firing, been mugged at gun point a block away from the University of Florida, been blocks away from a mass shooting (Madden one), and been in an area where guys in truck drove by and shot out the windows of closed businesses. I hope most people don't experience gun violence but it's can certainly find you in all sorts of circumstances.

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TheFearAndLoathing t1_j5m7wrc wrote

Replying to Theonetheycallgreat (#1,459,306)

Crazy, I’ve been doing all those things for over 30 years now and haven’t been shot at doing any of them and have no worries about being shot doing any of them. Sounds paranoid to worry about something that is statistically very unlikely to happen

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ther_dog t1_j5m9rwk wrote

Finally a real hero instead of the back-slapping, talking heads propped in front of cameras and reporters.

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pheisenberg t1_j5mavhg wrote

Replying to DrDragun (#1,457,128)

Seems hard to say given the lack of experimental data, but an interesting question.

I once read that there’s a common mammalian threat-response neural network that generates flight behavior if the threat is far, freezing at medium distance, and fight up close. How the distances are set varies by species.

Based on that, fighting could be the expected reaction in this situation, but I think humans are a little different. A nearby human threat can generate other responses such as submission, begging, or tending. He had to realize those wouldn’t work and suppress them. Someone could appear to freeze if they were trying to decide whether to fight but having a hard time making the decision under stress. It probably helped that the killer appeared somewhat confused, therefore was not exerting any emotional dominance and was more vulnerable to counterattack.

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fuck_the_fuckin_mods t1_j5mcjc7 wrote

Replying to DrDragun (#1,457,128)

I have extreme anxiety so I am on point when shit actually goes down. A calmness comes over me when things are seriously fucked and everyone else is frozen. I’m useless the other 99.9% of the time but I’m always ready for real shit. I honestly believe I would have done the same, as I have done similar in similar situations.

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cinnamon-swirl-girl t1_j5me588 wrote

Replying to spyder728 (#1,458,293)

I honestly think he noticed Huu Can Tran did not have another gun or isnt trying to actively grab for another gun so he knew maybe he have won the fight by getting ahold of it and tried to escalate as less violent as possible without hurting himself or anyone else.

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spyder728 t1_j5meb2o wrote

Replying to HardcoreSux (#1,459,726)

It is not being hero. This is about survival. Who fucking knows if he has another gun. You gunna let him pull it and fire at you before you react? That situation is his life or my life.

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spyder728 t1_j5mehwa wrote

Replying to cinnamon-swirl-girl (#1,460,142)

Maybe, but sometimes it is fucking hard to tell especially in tense situation like that. I ain't risking that bet if Tran pulls anything funny. Not a game there.

Especially letting that guy go. Like who knows wtf is he going to pick up and come back. That ain't something I would let him do.

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PoliticalLava t1_j5mfzao wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,456,279)

What a weird credibility you're trying to garner, which isn't needed for the point you're making.

You sound like you're trying to call yourself a hero with your profession. It's... weird. Not trying to attack you or your character, that's just what your message comes across as.

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rhackle t1_j5mlnbh wrote

Replying to LimitedSwimmer (#1,456,225)

It helped the shooter was a 70 year old man. People tried to tackle the Christchurch mosque shooter in New Zealand and he just mowed them down. Same for the pulse massacre.

The guy for sure did the right thing, but this would've ended horribly if the shooter wasn't geriatric and thought his plan out.

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percy_faucet t1_j5mwy9j wrote

Good guy with a gun saves the day! Oh. Wait. Just a good guy with a strong sense of purpose. He should train cops.

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snsdfan00 t1_j5mx2ej wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,461,710)

He calls the cops right after the old guy leaves. Obv he didn’t know about the mass shooting yet, for all he knew, it was just a crazy old dude bringing his weapon into his business.

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fallbrook_ t1_j5mxn4r wrote

FINALLY! THE MUCH FABLED “GOOD GUY WITH A GUN” TO SAVE THE DAY!!!!! oh..wait.

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FlopsyBunny t1_j5mzadz wrote

Self-effacing too. Says courageous people are the wounded & families of the dead, but not him.

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ramdom-ink t1_j5n2hqb wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,461,710)

If the guy came at him, he would’ve had to shoot him. Some people don’t want to cross that line, plus, he didn’t know the guy had killed others either. He could’ve asked him to lay on the floor and put his hands behind his head, but who knows how that would’ve played out? I’m some ways: he did the best thing for the situation at the time w/ what he knew.

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brainhack3r t1_j5n2mbe wrote

Replying to DeadSharkEyes (#1,458,894)

You do... it's part of you.

I had it happen once. A dude came up on my step daughter at a movie theatre and stared yelling at her. WAAY out of line.

I went over, grabbed him by his hair and the back of his jacket, and dragged like 200 feet to the security guard.

The guys was flat out drunk and belligerent.

I'm not a hero or anything or violent. There was just no decision.

It was instantaneous.

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piranhabait89 t1_j5n2uzm wrote

Only acceptable time to shout “let’s go Brandon”

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Tim-in-CA t1_j5n708g wrote

This guy needs a presidential medal. He’s a real hero who saved countless lives.

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Incorrect-Opinion t1_j5nfd8b wrote

I hope there’s a GoFundMe to give this man $1,000,000. He deserves it!

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Dumdumgirlsbeeep t1_j5novq7 wrote

Replying to Tim-in-CA (#1,462,704)

I agree. He 100% saved lives that night. And I bet he’s sitting there going. “Aw shucks it was nothing” when it was everything to them ♥️ and us too honestly. I feel like I’m starving for this kind of greatness lately.

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MATlad t1_j5ntoju wrote

Replying to bananafobe (#1,459,002)

I think that's the point for a lot of emergency training (and 'refreshers'): so that when the alarms, or flames, or H2S sensors go off for real, or when you see an electrified coworker (grab something non-conductive instead of the coworker) or someone who's bleeding out, you don't completely freeze up, or only hesitate enough to evaluate.

Like how Gretzky (and others in that elite-amongst-elite tier of athletes) claimed they felt they could slow down time enough and make plays and analyses that the rest of us (and even many of their very-well compensated teammates) would just blink through.

And on the dark side... Before the mass murder / suicide of ~918 people at Jonestown happened, there'd been multiple "practice runs" prior with unpoisoned drink:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Utopian-nightmare-3060346.php

Heck, maybe his followers wouldn't have suffered as much if they weren't even told. But I guess Sunday picnics ("try the punch!"--or more insidiously, here's the "communion wine") aren't really compatible with paranoid cult leaders whose cults face apocalyptic ends to their supposed utopias.

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bobo-the-dodo t1_j5nup5c wrote

Replying to DrDragun (#1,457,128)

I hope his family setup a gofundme for their dance hall. The sister indicated they had a hard time during covid and she kept it open as a promise for departed mom as place for seniors to find joy.

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NoChance182 t1_j5o3gpd wrote

Then something just snapped, something inside of me.

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frenchfreer t1_j5o7owt wrote

Replying to DrDragun (#1,457,128)

I was in the infantry in the mid 00’s and I saw trained soldiers freeze under fire when confronted with real combat the first time, so I bet you meal team six is shitting their pants and hitting the road. I don’t think people understand the absolute panic that happens when someone is actively trying to kill you and how hard it is to override those emotions.

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RenaissanceManLite t1_j5oac0f wrote

Watching the video I’m actually relieved the police didn’t show up at that exact moment. It’s highly possible they would have shot the hero.

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dasherchan t1_j5oirpx wrote

Guns + mental health issues = mass shootings.

Politicians aren't doing something to solve these 2 problems.

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tech_fu t1_j5oljs7 wrote

Replying to Dumdumgirlsbeeep (#1,458,346)

Most people do without training. In another life (not literally just many years ago) I was a Marine and heavily involved in several martial arts and MMA. There's a reason that there are so many variations of the phrase "everyone has a plan until they're punched in the face". Hand to hand combat with a gun in play is a more traumatic and stressful situation that 99.9999% of people will ever have to deal with. I wouldn't give yourself too hard of a time for hypothetically freezing in a situation like that.

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jheidenr t1_j5ootlp wrote

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is…..

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Darnell2070 t1_j5p3u3z wrote

Replying to Geenst12 (#1,468,212)

My main point is that it's not as likely as OP makes it seem. Being shot by a gun in America is no where near an inevitably.

I'm not trying to defend gun deaths. I'm not pro-gun by any means.

I just think it's important not to lie about it.

Statistically, the average American adult, average American child, is not very likely to be victim to him crime. That's just a fact backed by imperical data.

This is due to total population. If there are 350 million Americans. Currently 40,000~a year die from gun violence. Probably averaging around 45,000 now.

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/guns/

But of those deaths, 55%~ are suicides. So that leads to 20,000~ people out of 350 million being victims of gun related homicide.

And even as rates increase, US population is also increasing, so percentage stay pretty consistent.

Total deaths of 45,000 is .01 percent of 350 million.

Total homicides of 20,000 is .005 percent of 350 million.

If that number leads you to think that it's a question of when and not if, you either don't know the real statistics, or you're just very bad at math.

And to be sure, I believe 45,000 or even 20,000 is too many gun deaths. America needs to get it's shit together for sure.

But this ain't it -> >At this point, it's not a matter of "Will I encounter gun violence?" It's WHEN.

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keskeskes1066 t1_j5phwon wrote

Replying to bananafobe (#1,459,002)

Thank you for that. Now I have a response to my wife when she asks why I am "still just sitting there" after she asks me to do something.

"Just remaining calm and enabling myself to navigate a potentially dangerous situation, Babe.

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keskeskes1066 t1_j5pjcdn wrote

Replying to emmywhichway (#1,459,110)

Most of the time, the best response to a crisis is collect information before committing to action. Most of the time.

That few seconds or minutes of evaluating the threat can prevent impulsive, but deadly incorrect responses.

But be smart about it. When the fire alarm goes off, don't gawk around and ask others, "Is that for real?" Just get up an move to an exit.

Train yourself and family like the military - immediate action drills to immediate threats, (like near ambushes). Know what to do in the event of a kitchen fire, home intruder, tornado, etc. and teach yourself to collect information in less urgent situations.

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Cluefuljewel t1_j5prsk8 wrote

Replying to USS_Hornet (#1,461,261)

Yes. Very true. He didn’t know the guy just killed and injured 20 people. He’s probably still in shock at what he had done. And the fact that he didn’t shoot at the suspect. He shooed him away! The hero said he had never seen a real gun. Not sure I have either. Except maybe in a cops holster.

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Millenniauld t1_j5qingv wrote

Replying to Dumdumgirlsbeeep (#1,459,046)

I'll be honest, as someone who has a major "fight" response to stressors, it doesn't usually mean being a hero, and it does put you in danger. I got jumped once when delivering pizzas and I got DAMN lucky that they weren't expecting a skinny delivery girl to turn into a rage filled "fire spitting" demon (I carried pepper spray.) They easily could have killed me, because I'm wired to react even if it isn't the right choice. Pretty sure they were caught off guard and squeamish about hitting a woman until it was too late and I had the upper hand.

For every Brandon Tsay out there, you have dozens of people who get themselves or even others hurt. Life isn't like the movies.

Having the ability to stay calm, call 911, and do first aid when others are injured...... That's an even rarer talent in my opinion.

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sweetpeapickle t1_j5qn1i5 wrote

I see & read about people like this, & I just always weonder if I would have the ability to do that. I have no problem dying for someone else, I just hope I don't screwup & cause more problems.

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USS_Hornet t1_j5rcv4m wrote

Replying to Cluefuljewel (#1,471,385)

He said on the news he'd never held a gun so it might not have fired if he'd needed it too. The murderer was fiddling and cocking it repeatedly like he himself was having trouble chambering a round so it might not have been ready to fire. Thank goodness the murderer left and he didn't have to find out.

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