Rainman enters the thread…

I thought of RainMan when this article popped up in my feed.

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“Qantas never crashed”

Yes! All us old people had the same thought.

It seems like the cabin crew handled it very well. The passengers interviewed knew something happened but the cabin crew being calm and professional thankfully no one panicked (at least from what the article says).

I used to watch that show Air Crash Investigation/Mayday/Air Disasters (it's had several names) which, on one hand, has shown how resilient and safe planes can be even in emergency situations.

On the other hand, if I were on a plane and something was wrong, my anxiety would make me think of all the episodes that didn't have a good ending lol.

Glad everyone is safe.

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I'm not a good flyer. I'm flying on the 29th.

I watch Mayday a lot but I stopped about a month ago to lower my anxiety. I have to say, the recent crash(es) and incidents aren't helping matters.

You mean the ones overseas in countries with safety records so bad first world countries won’t allow their airlines to operate within their air space?

If there's one thing I've learned from watching that show, get a seat near the back of the plane, and as close to an exit as possible. That's the most survivable situation in the case of a crash, but obviously, it's not guaranteed.

Always sit in the back of the plane because planes don't reverse into mountains.

I get what you're saying, but there have definitely been instances of planes spinning as they've fallen, so it's entirely plausible that the back could make first contact with the ground

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Cannot see or hear the word "Qantas" without thinking this.

When I started learning to fly, with the Civil Air Patrol just in a Cessna-172 my first instructor was a retired commercial pilot.Aftet some of the first things you learn after ground school in the air after basic flights, are things like, stalls and how to handle spins, and what to do with engine failures/restarts/emergencies like that. You should navigate and assess everything first, then communicate, be it with passengers and ATC. My favorite advice though was, once you are no longer essentisl task-satursted, if ypu are fly a commercial aircraft, and can give a message to passengers, use your best 'Mission Control Houston' NASA tone of voice, nothing will reassure people more than that very calm, collected voice that sounds like everything is going to be fine, no matter what.

When I started learning to fly, with the Civil Air Patrol just in a Cessna-172 my first instructor was a retired commercial pilot.Aftet some of the first things you learn after ground school in the air after basic flights, are things like, stalls and how to handle spins, and what to do with engine failures/restarts/emergencies like that.
You should navigate and assess everything first, then communicate, be it with passengers and ATC.
My favorite advice though was, once you are no longer essentisl task-satursted, if ypu are fly a commercial aircraft, and can give a message to passengers, use your best 'Mission Control Houston' NASA tone of voice, nothing will reassure people more than that very calm, collected voice that sounds like everything is going to be fine, no matter what.

There have been a cpl in the U.S. lately

Not on any mainline carriers like Delta, American, United, etc. The general aviation community safety is nowhere near the levels of the mainline carriers. I think the only fatality in the last decade on any of the US mainline carriers was 2018 maybe, and that was a single fatality. Before that, it had been a decade or so.

Source: am a pilot

Not crashes necessarily:

Emergency landing - Lufthansa: https://people.com/human-interest/plane-makes-emergency-landing-in-chicago-after-passengers-laptop-catches-fire/

Bird strike - not high-end carrier, but shit happens: https://www.wpbf.com/article/passenger-jetblue-flight-62-plane-emergency-landing-haley-gozar/42514277

Near collision - Delta and American: https://people.com/travel/2-packed-planes-almost-collide-at-jfk-airport-a-split-second-of-panic-says-passenger/

>Emergency landing - Lufthansa: https://people.com/human-interest/plane-makes-emergency-landing-in-chicago-after-passengers-laptop-catches-fire/

Ok...so an issue was safely resolved that wouldn't have crashed the plane anyways.

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>Bird strike - not high-end carrier, but shit happens: https://www.wpbf.com/article/passenger-jetblue-flight-62-plane-emergency-landing-haley-gozar/42514277

Still considered a Part 121 aka mainline carrier. And multi-engined planes have multiple engines for a reason - redundancy. Even the multi engine plane I did my multi engine training in designed in the 1950's had the capability to fly on a single engine, and we even routinely practiced turning one off in flight as part of the training. It landed safely and didn't even come close to disaster.

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>Near collision - Delta and American: https://people.com/travel/2-packed-planes-almost-collide-at-jfk-airport-a-split-second-of-panic-says-passenger/

Yes, these things occasionally happen and large investigations are opened after that to find the cause and implement solutions to make sure similar instances dont happen again. Have you put this much effort into researching car crashes? How would many of them have happened since you and I started this conversation? If every single close call in vehicles were reported on the national news, dont you think you'd feel a bit more scared of driving?

Yeah you had the one pax that passed away on the SW flight with engine issues.

Before that it was the Colgan Q400 that iced up on approach in 2009.

Domestic mainline is so incredibly safe.

Yeah so...1 in 9 years is pretty good considering how many people die a year in the US in car crashes? 30,000-50,000 if I remember right?

And that one was arguably just incredibly bad luck. Had no one been in that seat it probably wouldn't have been a fatality.

I'm more terrified on my 10 minute commute to the office than I ever am on a US airline and I fly almost weekly. Sitting on an E175 as we speak.

I've only flown on the E175 once and I actually really liked it for how quiet it was.

It's a dope little jet and I usually get upgraded so I love the single first class seats.

This particular route used to be covered by a Dash 8 until 5-6 years ago so the Embraer was like going from Kia to a Rolls Royce.

I think the quietest I've been on was an A321neo but yeah the 175 is definitely my preferred regional jet. Fuck all CRJs, especially the 200.

You're just gonna gloss over that Boeing failure then? The over that's most likely responsible for the plane that went down in the Pacific? That was less than 9 years ago. 2018 and 2019 they had fatal crashes. I'm flying with Copa airlines next week. NOT a stellar safety record. Wish me luck.,.