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Total_Customer_6627 t1_j66c7br wrote

> Nurses at each hospital have been working under expired contracts since November. They say increased patient loads, overworked staff and trauma from the COVID-19 pandemic are forcing too many nurses from the profession.

This is pretty fair. Nurses have gone through some shit the last few years.

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Aaronkenobi t1_j66dg40 wrote

I work in the lab, its the whole health care system. They let MBAs with no idea what actually doing the various jobs involved in patient care make all the choices. The MBAs only give a shit about money and thats it

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kalekayn t1_j693hb4 wrote

The only people who like bean counters are themselves and shareholders.

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deformo t1_j6ad3ha wrote

I scoff at MBAs. Business degrees are worthless (I have one). Some dipshit with no practical experience gets thrust into a position of ‘make this efficient!’ That’s a fucking engineer’s job.

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idk012 t1_j6ceoyy wrote

It's more like mph and mha and not mba

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SalvageCorveteCont t1_j66yxie wrote

But not exactly something really fixable, I mean once Covid started that would have done a number on the training of new nurses.

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blackesthearted t1_j67p250 wrote

Education has suffered since COVID and as a result NCLEX pass rates have suffered since COVID, which has affected how many new RNs enter the workforce. But we’re bleeding current nurses. That can absolutely be helped.

(They’re also making the NCLEX “Next Gen” - aka more difficult - starting in April which isn’t going to help, but new RNs are also notoriously terrible, so it’s not unjustified.)

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idk012 t1_j6cesf3 wrote

A few years ago, there was talk of hiring less rn and more bsn in the industry. Did that ever happen?

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blackesthearted t1_j6cwgdg wrote

Yes and no. A lot of systems shifted to only hiring RNs with BSNs (as opposed to the other option, RNs with ASN/ADN), and trying to encourage/require their ASN RNs to get BSNs. A lot of governmental agencies and international authorities called for the phasing out of ASN RNs.

Then COVID happened and the nursing shortage got worse as nurses of all stripes died, became disabled, or just left the field, and all that talk got thrown out the window - at least where I live. Fewer nurses graduated and fewer nurses passed the NCLEX (worth noting that all grads, ASN and BSN, have to pass the exact same NCLEX), so we had more leaving and less coming in.

Some health systems have started hiring ASN RNs again. The health system I worked at after I graduated went BSN-only for a while (in part because it's attached to the large university I attended, and they prioritized their own grads), but they now hire ASN RNs again, because they need all the RNs they can get. You still sign an agreement to at least enroll in an ASN-to-BSN program within four years, but I don't know how closely they're sticking to that.

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swizzlemc2pots t1_j67vgh1 wrote

Not just nurses all healthcare training ceased. Like my surgical tech program cancelled the entire thing. Covid wiped outhealthcare training and the loss of qualified people means its gonna be really bad for like atleast 2 year. Im a traveler now and they pay really well.

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KStarSparkleDust t1_j6e7gvb wrote

They should have been better prepared before hand. Nurses have been screaming about the dangers of “lean staffing” for at least the decade I’ve been a nurse. Nothings been done to improve the situation and in most areas it’s even been as sabotaged.

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MrTastey t1_j6d3eyn wrote

The EMS system is on the verge of collapse in the US for the same reason’s unfortunately.

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