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CAPSLOCKCHAMP t1_j8y7kyx wrote
Party of small government.
127-0-0-0 t1_j903qo9 wrote
People who want the least oversight also want the most overreach.
CAPSLOCKCHAMP t1_j90ipws wrote
My favorite is when some conservative is dumb enough to actually think they can get away with believing in small government. Tomi Lahren got destroyed by the right for saying that the government has no domain over her womb. The contortions you have to engage in to be part of the mainstream right.
DangerOReilly t1_j91d6pz wrote
That was a wild one. The one time a conservative talking head was consistent in their beliefs and she got dragged for it.
Just wish it had prompted her to question her views more.
Crizbibble t1_j90yz58 wrote
Honestly this is a small government thing to do. The bill would of excluded in particular app data related to women’s menstruation. That is an additional process and not limiting a process. I hate republicans too but this law was going to make certain data unobtainable by law enforcement for whatever reason and I am sure they’re reasons you may need this data in a criminal investigation. In conclusion if this law was passed women would be treated as a special class and their menstruation data excluded from criminal investigations. That doesn’t seem like a good law.
Six_Pack_Attack t1_j9106qm wrote
Honest question, when would menstruation data be used in a non-anortion related criminal investigation where the same information couldn't be retrieved using another investigative measure?
Crizbibble t1_j910lme wrote
I have no idea tbh and haven’t given it any thought whatsoever. All I’m saying is this law was being made to exclude certain private data from law enforcement and that doesn’t seem like a good idea. If they file the proper paperwork to get a warrant for information related to a criminal investigation it should be honor just like everyone else’s data. The only use case I can think of off the top of my head would be something related to a pregnancy or to impeach a persons testimony related to menstruation. As I’m not a woman I am really limited in coming up with things I do not completely understand.
1573594268 t1_j91l4sf wrote
>I have no idea tbh and haven’t given it any thought whatsoever.
Clearly.
Crizbibble t1_j91lg1u wrote
Lol what is that suppose to mean? He didn’t sign a law preventing menstruation data being used in law enforcement. You folks don’t even read the articles yet you want to try to be an edge lord with nothing important to say.
ThePhoneBook t1_j94wfgb wrote
In general, the government should have access to no private data. Having access to private data is the exception, not the rule. 4A is the basis for this. The Amendment is not trying to say the government can have nothing except when a judge signs a piece of paper when the government can then have everything. That would render the Amendment meaningless.
What is more, when it comes to court, irrelevant or otherwise out of scope information is inadmissible. And the law is full of instructions and specific examples. What this bill would do is streamline the process for noting that menstrual history is out of scope of any investigation. It stops the system causing heartache, wasting time, and (which is the greatest concern) innovating case law to punish abortions
HoneydewInMyAss t1_j8yyi4t wrote
Every republican voter is fascist scum.
Sawpit t1_j8xorrc wrote
police can get a search warrant but if the facial recognition is turned off on your phone they cant access it IIRC. women should just feed these apps false information anyways if they are being required to use them by a employer or school like ive heard some school districts and employers want. keep it in a physical book or something anyways if they need if for a doctor or whatever they need to keep this information for.
Sharp-Ad4389 t1_j8xrk1u wrote
Wait, why would any employer or school require this?
Sawpit t1_j8xrubd wrote
i have no idea. but this school tried and it looks like it wont happen thankfully. there are schools that want to do this apparently.
Ok-Maize-8199 t1_j8ybhnl wrote
The need to control women is visible everywhere.
RSGator t1_j8ygu21 wrote
Most schools or employers wouldn’t want that. Some schools and employers are run by people like Youngkin.
SomebodyInNevada t1_j8yvo3h wrote
It's school athletics that have been interested. It's actually medically relevant--are they being pushed too far? If body fat falls too low periods stop.
Whether a coach would actually do anything useful with the information is another matter, though.... It's all about winning today, not future harm.
umylotus t1_j8z3h1z wrote
Also to prevent trans students from participating in sports. That's another reason these schools want this Info.
SomebodyInNevada t1_j8z4z0e wrote
Yeah, note the "have been". Now it's being used for trans-hate.
YourTattooIsUgly t1_j9y379y wrote
It’s not hate.
Trans is fraud, plain and simple. Removing fraud-committing individuals from public dollars is a good step.
SomebodyInNevada t1_j9yu6mo wrote
How is it fraud?? It's simply an attempt, albeit far from perfect, to remedy a birth defect.
YourTattooIsUgly t1_ja12rq8 wrote
The science is clear in every animal species.
Lying to others about what you’re physically born with is an act of criminal felonious fraud and I can imagine jailing a lot of folks who are defrauding others.
I have zero issue with jailing people for fraud at this level. And jailing them in their scientifically approved gender prison.
SomebodyInNevada t1_ja1rjo0 wrote
Where's the fraud?
And it's not clear in animal species because we have zero data. We can see the physical anatomy, we can't see what in the brain constitutes the perception of gender. It's like we can't see what in the brain shows what somebody's sexual attraction is--but homosexuality has been observed in a wide range of animals.
Our genetics are such a Rube Goldberg system that there are no doubt myraid ways things can get out of sync.
YourTattooIsUgly t1_ja2t2qp wrote
Well you keep committing fraud and I’ll keep pushing for jail time if you defraud someone in work or dating or sports.
Homosexuality is a sexuality, not a fraudulent claim about one’s gender. The fraud gender movement has zero to do with sexuality.
SomebodyInNevada t1_ja3mm9x wrote
I'm cis-het, not trans.
It is very relevant in dating but many things aren't disclosed up front in dating, singling out one as criminal doesn't make sense.
It is totally a non-issue in sports for those who went with puberty blockers and then transition. Later in life I think it's a minor issue after a few years but I'm not convinced either way.
How could it possibly be relevant in work?? I have never seen under the clothes of any coworker and if I did, so what? While I am obviously an American I have a much more European attitude about nudity.
YourTattooIsUgly t1_ja420ko wrote
Women don’t want penises in the womens bathroom.
Women don’t want penises in single sex dorms.
Women don’t want penises in womens prison.
There’s no “cis”. Stop using the words that these criminals use. There’s gender/sex and they mean the same thing and there are two.
The rest is fraud.
SomebodyInNevada t1_ja4sb3h wrote
The brain doesn't always match the body.
YourTattooIsUgly t1_ja5g6y4 wrote
Then just say “mentally ill (gender)” versus committed criminal fraud and be done with it.
SomebodyInNevada t1_ja5kki0 wrote
Different doesn't mean wrong.
DangerOReilly t1_j91dezd wrote
Sounds like something that a doctor should know and examine, not coaches or schools or creepy politicians. Anything medically relevant should be discussed with one's doctor.
Crooked_Cock t1_j8xsjuh wrote
Fuck Youngkin.
JubalHarshaw23 t1_j8ykjuu wrote
DeSantis wannabe making himself notorious before announcing presidential run.
BozoidBob t1_j8ysfla wrote
Just tell them “every month like clockwork” and let them go fish if they don’t believe you.
tennesseewaltz t1_j907j09 wrote
Wtf did I just read???
tryoracle t1_j90bofx wrote
Right
napincoming321zzz t1_j94923k wrote
The article headline and content is incredibly misleading. The governor didn't veto the bill, his office expressed disapproval but it was tabled in committee. The bill didn't have anything to do with warrants specifically seeking menstrual data - no such warrants exist. Basically, the bill would carve out menstrual tracking apps (e.g. Flo, Clue) as EXCLUDED from phone data that could be collected during a warrant.
If the police have a warrant to search your phone for child pornography, or planning to commit murder, etc, they could search every single file on the phone, every app. This bill would specifically carve out menstrual data from that, a protection which does not exist for any other app. Not for your bank app, or your email app, or your Tindr, whatever.
As a Democrat Virginian who has been following this for a while: the bill was signalling from Democrat legislators that they care about defending reproductive choice in the wake of Roe V. Wade overturn, but never had any practical reason to become law. The menstrual app on your phone is not protected by HIPAA, it's not protected records from a healthcare provider. It's the same as if the police have a warrant to search your house and you have a notebook where you have written with pen in which you record your cycle. They can still seize it during the search.
ataatia t1_j90rr2o wrote
uhhh sure it wasnt WEST?
romainelettuce365 t1_j90vjmd wrote
I fucking wish, I'm so disappointed in my fellow virginians for voting for him
supercyberlurker t1_j8y1yqj wrote
Took me forever to find out why people would even care to snoop on women for this.
.. but then made the connection between it and abortion, and .. wow.
Yeah it's probably best we prevent police from getting that data.