Esselon t1_jaijkmv wrote
This just in: Navy pilot unaware of the fact that other entities of the federal government are probably already trying to investigate random objects flying through the sky.
DangerStranger138 OP t1_jaikinm wrote
Navy Pilot also an engineer bruh. UAPs defying known physics
Esselon t1_jaipx9y wrote
Doesn't really affect my point of his underlying assumption that there's nobody in the US government already looking into this. Somehow we've been hearing tales of UFOs for years and they've just been saying "oh it's just people seeing things."
Considering there's been recent declassifications of reports about government investigations into UFOs, I think we can safely say that this is being looked into.
kensingtonGore t1_jajf0nw wrote
The thing is it has been looked into for 75 years, but there's no information forthcoming.
The latest legal changes have been an effort to get that information released to the public, but also to our own government who is not completely aware of what's going on, (according to the people who run the government intelligent agencies.)
Information is apparently being held back from the office of the president.
Esselon t1_jam4dnw wrote
>The thing is it has been looked into for 75 years, but there's no information forthcoming.
I imagine for a lot of those 75 years it was just talking to pilots and collecting details/anecdotes. Consider how far technology has come since then and it's not an insane idea to consider that we've only recently come to the point where we may be able to glean some information from them.
>Information is apparently being held back from the office of the president.
The President isn't the king of America. The prime duties of the President as the office was originally conceived is as a chief diplomat and the overall commander of the military. I'm sure the president doesn't get briefed on every single CIA mission and undercover FBI operation in existence, because unless that president has a background in counterterrorism or law enforcement, what's the point? It's not like any of the last presidents were physicists or engineers who would be able to lend insight into the situation.
kensingtonGore t1_jaqc6q5 wrote
>It's not like any of the last presidents were physicists or engineers who would be able to lend insight into the situation
Right, lets not tell the commander and chief about the impossible things recorded by credible witnesses flying with impunity over american missile facilities. And certainly don't tell him about the paper trail and opinion of the former UAP director regarding 'recovered materials.' That's none of his business...
imo, I completely disagree, all of humanity is owed the knowledge, not just a select few the military deems appropriate.
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> it was just talking to pilots and collecting details/anecdotes
There might be no link at all. Maybe it's a co-incidence that the US military suddenly, and for no rational reason began funding anti gravity, memory metals, and fusion research in the early 1950s. Just a few years after Trinity. And they're still at it, they just funded 8 universities last week for LENR (aka cold fusion) research.
Why are they intent on studying these fields which are so scientifically unfounded that they are/were almost taboo to study seriously? For 75 years? What do they have to show for that multi-trillion dollar investment?
They know alot more than they say, and they're not sharing observations, or materials which could be studied at greater speed in public. Even the prosaic things.
What's the motivation at this point?
CatAvailable3953 t1_jajlc4j wrote
It could be an anomaly of the aircraft’s threat acquisition and/or tracking systems. That would be of interest for an engineer. As a military pilot it was one of the first things that came to mind. That has occurred in the past. If you pull enough g’s you can see things. Why is it always Navy pilots. Never Air Force, Marines, or Army. Besides having to land on a heaving postage stamp what are they doing to those great aviators?
kensingtonGore t1_jajrqos wrote
Im curious, have you looked into the details of the Nimitz cluster of UAP encounters from 2004? Alot of these valid questions have been asked and answered by more qualified folks than you'll find on reddit
CatAvailable3953 t1_jajsem2 wrote
I have. You are correct but I believe there’s been no definitive answer reached. At least of which us minions know. If it was a system anomaly we probably would never hear.
kensingtonGore t1_jak55ji wrote
This interview is fairly recent, and breaks it down in Fravors own words, which is nice.
But there's also this forensic analysis, it goes deep into the velocities and g forces reported, and covers the sensors used. The fact that the UAP were detected on multiple platforms, over multiple days from multiple credible witnesses is why I think that event cluster is the gold standard for study.
It's not enough to be conclusive, but that's because I think we struggle to record it. Still deserves a closer look I think
CatAvailable3953 t1_jakr08v wrote
I have no problem with examination. Why would one? Or, would it be…disclosure?
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