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hypatiatextprotocol t1_jarua0r wrote

Truly wonderful headline - here's the details:

>Health Canada clarified the parameters for granting the licence, saying the company is licensed to sell for scientific and medical purposes only.

>"They cannot sell products to the general public," the federal department said.

>Adastra Labs can only sell to other licence holders who have cocaine listed on their licence, namely pharmacists, practitioners, hospitals, or the holder of an exemption for research purposes, Health Canada said.

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flibbidygibbit t1_jarylj5 wrote

I made a "false fact nancy grace" meme a decade ago in adviceanimals

"Canada is trying to legalize medicinal cocaine"

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criticalpwnage t1_jasyl37 wrote

As I recall cocaine does have a legitimate medical use in eye surgery

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AtLeastThisIsntImgur t1_jatm966 wrote

Read an old thread about people saying they were given cocaine for broken noses. Best numbing agent for resetting apparently.

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Sky_Muffins t1_jattp0u wrote

We give a disappointing dose of nebulized cocaine for nose bleeds sometimes. Never seen anyone enjoy it

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firemonkeywoman t1_jarvylg wrote

I had emergency minor surgery to stop a nosebleed once and the Dr used liquid cocaine to numb the area. I was nine and flying!

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Croakerboo t1_jaryrh2 wrote

So... if my nose bleeds for... a normal reason, the doctors will give me cocaine?

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firemonkeywoman t1_jas38mw wrote

No. This nose bleed would not stop. I had random nose bleeds, several a year, and this one just would not stop, so after an hour my mom took me to the ER, they cauterized the offending artery/vein, I still get nose bleeds now and then but haven't had one that wouldn't stop since that incident. I have had issues with my blood not clotting like it should all my life, I have had two blood transfusions an picked up a nasty hep c infection from that. Great fun.

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TheManWhoHasThePlan t1_jas6djd wrote

Yeah. I had sinus surgery, and they used cocaine on me as well. I was asleep and only knew because the nurse told me when I woke up.

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goddamnmike t1_jary6ax wrote

No, they're not selling it over the counter to anyone who asks. So it's not legal yet. The argument I keep hearing about companies that try selling it, online or in a store, is for harm reduction. They say they want to eliminate street dealers selling toxic drugs by offering a safer alternative. I can only believe that if they sell it at a higher potency and reduced cost while generating just enough profit to stay active. Otherwise, they're just more of the same typical dealers, cutting their shit with pig dewormer to inflate their product and max out their profits.

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reddit455 t1_jas0qnz wrote

AFIAK, they need to certify test kits -(chemical sniffers) train dogs, etc.

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there's a standard that has to be met for the test kit you use to lock someone up.

the target substance need to be standardized just the same.

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NIST Chemistry WebBook, SRD 69

https://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=C50362&Mask=200

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Cocaine
Formula: C17H21NO4
Molecular weight: 303.3529
IUPAC Standard InChI: InChI=1S/C17H21NO4/c1-18-12-8-9-13(18)15(17(20)21-2)14(10-12)22-16(19)11-6-4-3-5-7-11/h3-7,12-15H,8-10H2,1-2H3/t12?,13?,14-,15+/m0/s1 Copy
InChI version 1.06
IUPAC Standard InChIKey: ZPUCINDJVBIVPJ-PFSRBDOWSA-N Copy
CAS Registry Number: 50-36-2
Chemical structure: C17H21NO4
This structure is also available as a 2d Mol file
Stereoisomers:
Pseudococaine
Allococaine
Other names: 8-Azabicyclo[3.2.1]octane-2-carboxylic acid, 3-(benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-, methyl ester, [1R-(exo,exo)]-; 1αH,5αH-Tropane-2β-carboxylic acid, 3β-hydroxy-, methyl ester, benzoate (ester); L-Cocaine; Benzoylmethylecgonine; Ecgonine, methyl ester, benzoate (ester); Neurocaine; 2β-Carbomethoxy-3β-benzoyloxytropane; 2β-Tropanecarboxylic acid, 3β-hydroxy-, methyl ester, benzoate (ester); 1-α-H,5-α-H-Tropane-2-β-carboxylic acid, 3-β-hydroxy-, methyl ester, benzoate; Bernice; Bernies; Burese; Cecil; Cholly; Coke; Corine; Ecgonine, methyl ester, benzoate; Eritroxilina; Erytroxylin; Girl; Gold dust; Happy dust; Kokain; Kokan; Kokayeen; Methyl 3-β-hydroxy-1-α-H,5-α-H-tropane-2-β-carboxylate benzoate; Star dust; 2-β-Tropanecarboxylic acid, 3-β-hydroxy-, methyl ester, benzoate; 3-Tropanylbenzoate-2-carboxylic acid methyl ester; Methyl 3β-hydroxy-1αH,5αH-tropane-2β-carboxylate benzoate (ester); 3β-Hydroxy-2β-tropanecarboxylic acid methyl ester, benzoate; 2-Methyl-3β-hydroxy-1αH,5αH-tropane-2β-carboxylate benzoate (ester); (1R,2R,3S,5S)-2-Methoxycarbonyltropan-3-yl benzoate

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Minqua t1_jarst8g wrote

TBF ….it should be legal. Its no more dangerous than booze and cigarettes

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Splyce123 t1_jarszm6 wrote

Or maybe booze and cigarettes should be illegal as they're as dangerous as cocaine?

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Minqua t1_jart9m3 wrote

We tried that with booze once and it didn’t work at all and keeping coke illegal hasnt been working for 50 years

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Splyce123 t1_jarth3n wrote

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you. Just pointing out that there's always 2 ways to look at the situation.

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Whatevernevermind2k t1_jaweetc wrote

How do you know it has it worked? It hasn’t been legal for a century so you have nothing to compare it to, for all you know legal cocaine use would quadruple the number of users.. meaning only prohibition is keeping it down to todays user numbers.

Plus the statement that prohibition of alcohol did not work is a historical inaccuracy. Prohibition did have positive effects, including a significant decrease in alcohol consumption and a reduction in alcohol-related deaths.

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Minqua t1_jawexjt wrote

Do you really not see the violence the drug trade has caused in poorer communities? Its a black market item so that makes it way more dangerous. Colombia in the 80s/90s, mexico now.

Please the war on drugs has been an enormous failure

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Whatevernevermind2k t1_jawfnxk wrote

What make you so sure the violence would not be a hell of a lot worse if it was legalised?

The most violence caused by any intoxicant is caused by alcohol; which is legal.

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Minqua t1_jawhnx8 wrote

Have you ever heard of a gang shooting over aspirin?

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Whatevernevermind2k t1_jawiib3 wrote

What are the number of deaths of cocaine related gang violence vs cocaine related usage deaths?

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Dagonium t1_jartekb wrote

We should also make murder legal. Laws against it hasn't been working for hundreds of years.

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samuelgato t1_jas3hxw wrote

Prohibition creates more problems than it solves. The war on drugs is a failure

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glue715 t1_jasb3r1 wrote

Prohibition doesn’t work- at all…

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GetlostMaps t1_jasupmw wrote

It actually works well when targeted as part of a broader strategy - it's just that the US has never done broader strategies, they only ever done token efforts.

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Negative-Emotion-795 t1_jas2fpp wrote

WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN of licensed scientists and medical personnel?

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HighFromOly t1_jas5e2p wrote

1st off, pharmaceutical cocaine has been in use for over a century as a topical painkiller. 2nd off, pharmaceutical cocaine is 10% purity and NO ONE would use it to get high

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frealfr t1_jas48ui wrote

It goes to all of the Canadian government funded drug addicts.

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