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neotericnewt t1_jec6e77 wrote

>She had a heart attack

No she didn't, she panicked and passed out. She was stable when she was taken to the hospital. That's why it's being called an "acute heart issue" and not a heart attack.

Like I said, I agree that people shouldn't be trying to make tiktok videos out of scaring strangers, but this is just kids being dumb. Fourteen year olds often do dumb things, and putting a bucket on a strangers head is a pretty mild example of "dumb things kid do".

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Royal-Possibility219 t1_jecfzbb wrote

Stop trying to justify this stupid shit as “kids doing dumb shit”. Don’t mess with others. Period. If your actions cause harm, then you deserve to be punished.

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neotericnewt t1_jecimgw wrote

I'm not justifying, as I've said twice now, yes, everyone agrees people shouldn't mess with other people like this.

We're talking about kids here. A couple kids put a bucket on someone's head as part of some dumb joke. I don't think the pitchforks are really necessary.

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Royal-Possibility219 t1_jecyriz wrote

Again, you’re saying “people shouldn’t mess with other people” but…… “kids are kids” that’s like someone trying to apologize then going on to say, “but” then go on to try how to say they were in the right somehow and justify their actions.

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neotericnewt t1_jeczmwz wrote

I'm not justifying their actions. The kids should come forward and they should apologize to the woman. And... that should probably be about it. The police are saying they're investigating it as an assault, which is absurd.

Do you genuinely believe that some high-school kids should face jail time or criminal charges because they put a bucket on someone's head?

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moopcat t1_jed0z1k wrote

It is an assault, she didn’t ask for them to put a bucket on her head. Dumb that you’re still defending it even though you’re pretending you’re not defending it.

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Educational_Hawk1029 t1_jed1tjc wrote

Frankly they deserve a fine, probation, community service, and a swift kick in the ass.

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Royal-Possibility219 t1_jed0vao wrote

Absolutely, it’s assault which resulted in harm to an individual. These “pranks” for likes are fucking bs and until something is done it will continue to happen. Let me tell you if someone did that shit to me idgaf who you are, I’m taking to you to the ground and you might go to sleep.

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Nivosus t1_jed1rxv wrote

Depends. Kids have received jail time for pulling chairs out from people and causing them to slip and fall, which in some rare cases can result in severe head injuries.

People have gone to jail for pranks in the past.

If you hurt somebody, you're liable. Even if you claim it was "just a prank"

It isn't hard to come to such a basic conclusion. Don't defend assholes. If you hurt somebody, you pay for your actions. If you don't want to go to jail, don't hurt people. Full stop. Be better.

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neotericnewt t1_jed492y wrote

>If you hurt somebody, you're liable.

Nobody was hurt. The woman was taken to the hospital with nothing wrong with her. She freaked out, went to the hospital, and was fine.

Because she had a plastic bucket put on her head. That's it.

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Nivosus t1_jed8ttz wrote

It literally in the article said she suffered an acute heart issue which caused her to collapse and pass out.

Why you lying? We are not stupid. Stop acting like we are.

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neotericnewt t1_jed92hq wrote

>It literally in the article said she suffered an acute heart issue

It says in the article that she says the hospital said she had an "acute heart issue", which isn't a thing. She didn't have a heart attack, they would have said that. She was stable when she got to the hospital.

She just freaked out about a bucket on her head. Again, it was a fucking plastic bucket on her head. I'm not saying it's okay to do shit like that, but I am saying that people are frothing at the mouth over a dumb stunt committed by children.

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Nivosus t1_jed97b4 wrote

Uh huh. I'm just gonna go ahead and block your absolutely uneducated toxic ass.

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grimholder t1_jednw7j wrote

In a time where women are grabbed by sex traffickers, where rape statistics are ABSURDLY high, and you have no idea if this woman has suffered any form of trauma (like fucking giving birth, which can absolutely alter a woman's mental state) it is the HEIGHT of victim blaming to say she was overreacting about this. In the less than a second it took for her to become disoriented, panic can set in and take over. It's not her fault, and it is NOT OK. Kids being kids is no excuse, and yes, they should be punished.

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muffdivemcgruff t1_jecnyxs wrote

You’re a fucking idiot, probably have a punchable face too.

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[deleted] t1_jecw10u wrote

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eternalbuzz t1_jecy9ya wrote

I’m going to guess you took your hall monitor job very seriously

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[deleted] t1_jed1txn wrote

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eternalbuzz t1_jed40vc wrote

Wait.. am I supposed to report you now for calling other person an asshole?

Be better lol

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megustaALLthethings t1_jed13pe wrote

Likely says the person that is dismissive of their kids, if they have or will have some, when they do shit to others.

At fourteen you need an asswhoopin if you go out and harass people for stupid shit. Being young never excuses bullshit.

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Royal-Possibility219 t1_jed1r3r wrote

Exactly. He either did dumb shot like this as a kid or has kids who do dumb shit.

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Kailaylia t1_jee66ft wrote

>He either did dumb shot like this as a kid or

is still doing dumb shit.

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clemonade17 t1_jedlxem wrote

Dude age 14 is 4 years away from being an adult. Not an adult yet, but sure as shit old enough to know better

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Educational_Hawk1029 t1_jed1p4l wrote

Actually she likely went into SVT. No hospital will ever call a panic attack an acute heart issue. And if I thought they were going to hurt me or my child, I don’t care if they are only 14, one of them would likely end up in the hospital.

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neotericnewt t1_jed428i wrote

The hospital didn't say she suffered an acute heart issue, the woman in question is the one who said that. I agree, that's not something a hospital would say.

>And if I thought they were going to hurt me or my child, I don’t care if they are only 14, one of them would likely end up in the hospital.

If you'd beat children until they needed to be hospitalized because they put a plastic bucket on your head for laughs, I'm sorry, but you're the one with the issue.

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gone_offroad t1_jed5fo6 wrote

"After being taken to the hospital, Clay-Monaghan reportedly says she was told she suffered an “acute heart issue” which caused her to pass out"

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neotericnewt t1_jed9dgr wrote

Right, the woman in question, Clay-Monaghan, says she suffered an acute heart issue... which isn't a thing. There's heart attacks, tachycardia, SVT, there are plenty of things the hospital would have told her. "An acute heart issue" isn't one of them.

She was fine when she got to the hospital. She freaked out.

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gone_offroad t1_jedh0du wrote

I'll try typing as slow as I can, because it seems like you can't read that fast. "reportedly says she was told she suffered an “acute heart issue” Was told. W a s t o l d

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neotericnewt t1_jeez8d3 wrote

...right, this is exactly what I said above. The only person saying she suffered from an "acute heart issue" is the woman in question. Considering she was totally fine by the time she got to the hospital and an "acute heart issue" isn't a thing, it sounds like she just freaked out and wasn't actually harmed in any way.

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Educational_Hawk1029 t1_jed4nue wrote

Absolutely. My issue is that I refuse to allow some little asshat to harm me or my child. Bucket lands on my head and I can’t be held responsible for who gets hurt.

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neotericnewt t1_jed9jr4 wrote

>My issue is that I refuse to allow some little asshat to harm me or my child.

A plastic bucket on your head doesn't harm you or your child.

>Bucket lands on my head and I can’t be held responsible for who gets hurt.

You would be. If you beat a child to the point they needed to go to the hospital because they put a bucket on your head you'd likely be charged with assault. Self defense doesn't fly when you act like a total nut job and brutally assault someone completely needlessly.

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redwolf587 t1_jee6ora wrote

I really don't think you know how to read, but I'll toss my hat in the ring.

What people mean when they say they'll fight, they mean because of ~unknown danger~

If someone puts a bucket on your head and you're blinded, you do not, I repeat, DO NOT KNOW THEIR INTENTIONS. Some people will immediately defend themselves, and start swinging. Others will have severe panic or fear. No one just goes "oh goodness me, is that a child placing a bucket on my head! I've been had!"

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neotericnewt t1_jeexly7 wrote

>What people mean when they say they'll fight, they mean because of ~unknown danger~

Sure, and what you're talking about is a total overreaction to the situation. Sorry but if your first thought is that you're going to die when you take that bucket off your head and see some kids laughing, you're the one with some serious issues. That's not a reasonable conclusion to draw and wouldn't justify you beating children until they needed to be hospitalized.

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Kailaylia t1_jee5tti wrote

>After being taken to the hospital, Clay-Monaghan reportedly says she was told she suffered an “acute heart issue” which caused her to pass out. She filed a police report after being released from the hospital, the Los Angeles Times reports.

I'd trust a doctor over a policeman about the cause of a black-out.

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neotericnewt t1_jeey0d8 wrote

The doctor isn't the person that said she suffered an acute heart issue, she is. She's the only person saying she suffered an acute heart issue. An "acute heart issue" isn't a medical term. It isn't a thing.

She freaked out about a bucket on her head and was totally fine before she even got to the hospital.

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