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Newish_Username t1_ircy5oj wrote

That is sad, and hilarious. But I'm glad that Venezuela did what it did, to show the world what happens when you go full state-sponsored socialism and business takeover.

Zoo animals, Frank. They ate the Zoo animals!

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BraethanMusic t1_irdeocm wrote

What happened in Venezuela had very little to do with the socialist nature of their economy and much more to do with extremely poor economic decisions by those in power.

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altrussia t1_ireh0m4 wrote

It's like those people making poor decision don't learn from people making the exact same poor decisions thinking it will work for them when it didn't work for those..

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Newish_Username t1_ireib6f wrote

Zoo.Animals.

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BraethanMusic t1_irepbau wrote

What about them?

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Newish_Username t1_irersip wrote

They ate them. The arguments in favor of socialism are therefore invalid.

People are dense on these forums, I tell you.

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BraethanMusic t1_irf1gks wrote

The irony of calling others "dense" while simultaneously misunderstanding the point of my comment is fucking top-tier. You are awful at forming strawman arguments.

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Newish_Username t1_irf7cbk wrote

Just because I disagree doesn't mean I misunderstood. When you're older and wiser, you'll understand that.

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BraethanMusic t1_irf7x36 wrote

Imagine disagreeing with a point that you very clearly did not understand. My point wasn't "socialism good", it was the indisputable fact that Venezuela's situation was caused by massive political mismanagement. It had nothing to do with their system of governance. Put the same people in the same positions in a capitalist or any other variation economy, and the same things happen. By the way, animals being eaten because of the crisis caused by said mismanagement is by far the most absolutely asinine argument you could possibly try to use against socialism, regardless if "socialism good" is my stance or not.

Maybe you'll understand that when you stop correlating age with comparative political and economic understanding.

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versebadger1 t1_ire3339 wrote

The ideals of socialism are the opposite of the ideals of business, they're diametrically opposed, even. If Venezuela's industries had been owned by the public and benefits shared a la socialism they wouldn't have had any of the internal problems at all, they would have had a ton of external ones later, but they could easily have fed and kept safe their population, if it had been truly socialist.

It was the lack of money and assets for the people and the hoarding of them by private individuals that caused that part of their whole mess, not the concept of sharing and public ownership. Plenty more as well obvs, but the wealth was never spread out to actual venezuelans en masse.

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