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QuestionableAI t1_iwzni5k wrote

Nothing like media ignoring the fact that all the research regarding crime points to SYSTEMIC issues of society (employment opportunities, fair wages, food security, secure shelter, educational opportunities, fair treatment, and adherence to the social contract)... rather than the number of badges on the street.

Stupid, fear mongering, and political points of more cops on the street instead of tackling the really hard issues of making community livable.

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CookieMasochist OP t1_iwzp0kq wrote

This publication is specifically focused on the crime beat here in Chicago so there's definitely some bias at play. I mentioned in another comment response that the lack of cops isn't really the main cause of the violence as much as Chicago's history of corruption, segregationist urban planning, the decline in the city's manufacturing base over the last half century, and Chicago's role as a logistics hub making it an important link in large drug distribution chains. That said, there is definitely some oniony irony at play here, and in the short term broadcasting that you want fewer cops before taking meaningful action against the broader systemic issues might not be the best idea necessarily.

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QuestionableAI t1_ix0lmn5 wrote

Lot of politicians, including those pretending to be journalists, are not known for being deep thinkers ... or thinkers at all, for that matter.

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SilasX t1_ix2tnin wrote

So … IOW, begging people to please stop killing each other for 48 hours is a stupid strategy too?

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QuestionableAI t1_ix4tn1n wrote

Amazing how you can try to say something clever by being obtuse and fail.

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Fit_Cheesecake_4000 t1_ix2i1s5 wrote

And yet, improving those other metrics never really seems to have the same effect as taking criminals off the streets, now does it?

This is what I never quite understood: I agree that if you change all aspects of society, there may very well be a flow on effect into other apeexts (like crime), but what you're talking about is a large percentage of change that isn't feasible, so inevitably it falls flat.

Maybe because trying to change 20 different things at once equates to far more effort and complex interplay in society than just "lock them up".

So unless you want to be tracked and metricised every step of your lives, I'm afraid raising every measure of a society isn't feasible.

But is this a case of "true reform hasn't been tried yet"? Because I can assure you that it has.

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QuestionableAI t1_ix3ql3f wrote

It is because they have actually never tired to do any of that... try to keep up.

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Fit_Cheesecake_4000 t1_ix5vud0 wrote

No, they have. Why do you think were are so many homeless people living in encampments in LA and Portland? Why do you think recent bail reform and changing of sentencing laws in some states has lead to some criminals offending 20 times in a row and being released and groups of looters stealing less than $999 worth of goods from stores, only to have those stores shutdown because they can't operate?

They're trying, but their policies are just failing because they tend to operate from the perspective of "People are inherently good, it's the system that makes them bad", which I doubt is true because essentially we're all animals who can (sometimes) employ bursts of logic but are decently driven by emotion.

(I can't quantify if all of them are but these are the most visible and detrimental outcomes.)

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QuestionableAI t1_ix6enhg wrote

There is a diff between evaluating effectiveness of programs and just throwing programs at an issue. Politicians don't listen to or ask any question to policy analysis, it's just stage drama.

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