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AssociateJaded3931 t1_iyhsnyp wrote

Look again, Utah. Florida is not the place you want to emulate.

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Kaitensatsuma t1_iyhspg3 wrote

I think "If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer " is already out on loan though

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pseudodoxia t1_iyhu14v wrote

Florida is called the bastion of neoliberal social welfare for a reason, friends

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lengthybread409 t1_iyhx4cm wrote

"The Miami-Dade Criminal Mental Health Project was spearheaded by county Judge Steve Leifman in 2000. The project seeks to reform how people with mental health issues are treated in the criminal justice system by using community-based treatment and support services as opposed to criminal prosecution"

What is the issue?

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IAmTheClayman t1_iyhyt2m wrote

That’s like asking Hannibal Lecter how to suppress your cannibalistic urges

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thecaninfrance t1_iyi0dsm wrote

Are they asking DeSantis to fly the poor and mentally unwell to Democratic led states with Florida tax dollars?

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Tiabaja t1_iyi3jmz wrote

Why not look into one of those successful European countries that don't have homelessness?

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fromwayuphigh t1_iyi7yka wrote

Makes perfect sense... if the point is to get to the point where hunting them for sport is the goal.

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lengthybread409 t1_iyi94hy wrote

Replying to JamesXX (#840,046)

I know. I was hoping to find that Utah will start publishing all arrests like Florida. That Florida is doing should be the standard for what all states should be doing. Edit: clarified what I wanted to say

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Shakespurious t1_iyiafsb wrote

Oh, great, Utah's sending their homeless to Santa Monica too, eh?

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LVAUGHNZ t1_iyiqzao wrote

this explains a lot.

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RoachBeBrutal t1_iyiuu38 wrote

Very poor choice of locations to emulate.

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Xyrus2000 t1_iyiylkt wrote

Looking to Florida for mental health and homelessness solutions is like looking to Jefferey Dahmer for recipe suggestions.

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HumpieDouglas t1_iyjbdzt wrote

Florida doesn't seem like the right place to look.

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cookiemonster247 t1_iyji948 wrote

I live in Orlando and I swear we have one of the worst homeless person problems I’ve ever seen in a small well kept city. They like flock here in the winter too. Pretty much every exit ramp has someone begging. Orlando does not do a good job dealing with homeless.

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Iam_NotAnExpert t1_iyjkpdt wrote

Here in Florida we just elect our mentally ill as representatives for the state.

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Aporkalypse_Sow t1_iyjnkxm wrote

Replying to wxcode (#841,726)

Lol. When 90% of your population has mental issues, they tend to go undiagnosed. I know more than a few absolutely crazy assholes from Florida, and they'll never see a doctor because they are complete narcissists.

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afedyuki t1_iyjo3ks wrote

Replying to Tiabaja (#840,061)

Because Capitalists don't have a free reign at them and their social programs did not get completely pilfered by a bunch of rich sociopaths?

Here in US, HUD housing got defunded into the ground. Mental healthcare is run by drug dealers. All the housing is owned by a handful of cartels who also own all the companies as well as politicians who made all that legal. Yeah... it's pretty much a Banana Republic with nukes at this point.

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undercooked1234 t1_iyjpiei wrote

Fucked role model. Usually the rule of thumb is if FL does something, everyone else shouldnt.

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infinity234 t1_iyjr4jo wrote

Replying to Tiabaja (#840,061)

Well if you want a serious answer, a) because why look internationally when you can first draw from internal solutions, not educated on what the article discusses (i went to the comments first), before trying to examine policy in a different culture on the other side of the planet, check and see maybe what your neighbor is doing first, and b) Europe, on a per captia basis, doesnt appear to be doing much better than Utah in terms of homelessness. A preliminary google search shows Utah has a homlessness rate of 9.8 per 10,000 people, and similar rates in Europe appear to be 22 (France), 23 (Netherlands), 41 (Germany), 11 (Denmark), 12 (Ireland), 33 (Sweden), 10 (Finland), etc. Doesn't look like, generally speaking Europe, has a better solved homelessness problem than Utah specifically. Doesn't answer why Florida which has a 13 per 10,000, but probably see point of neighbor being easier to work with than someone an ocean over. The outliers to this with exceptionally low homelessness numbers in Europe appear to be (again, just on preliminary seaching),Spain (5), Latvia (3), and Croatia (1). Not saying this to nessicarily defend Utah or to shit on Europe, but something to consider.

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wxcode t1_iyjuaf3 wrote

Replying to Aporkalypse_Sow (#841,971)

Perhaps you should ask yourself why you question scientific data when it doesn't align with your political preferences.

I would recommend not including yourself in the cohort of COVID deniers active on this site.

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zubaz69 t1_iyjui91 wrote

They can do what they did before the Olympics. Put homeless on a Greyhound to Las Vegas. I know its true because I worked EMS in SLC and Las Vegas and right before Olympics I saw a lot of my frequent flyers from SLC in Vegas.Several even still knew my name.

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Fit_Juice_128 t1_iyjz35t wrote

Why? Pretty sure most Floridan politicians would just have the homeless shot in the street.

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hessian_prince t1_iyk3yua wrote

Send them to Florida isn’t the best option.

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mia_elora t1_iyk9109 wrote

Glad to know that Utah wishes to embrace Hellstate as a state of being, but I feel sorry for the citizens who have to deal with such bullshit. (no, I didn't have time to read the article, just... Florida. Ugh.)

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Delcium1 t1_iykn63i wrote

Man, Utah's drought is so bad it would be better just sending people somewhere else. In fact, if we could get like a million people to move out east, that would be great.

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purplegladys2022 t1_iyknetr wrote

Replying to wxcode (#841,726)

I'd love to see where you got your data, because I saw a study that does indeed show Florida as third.

The third highest amount of mentally ill residents with little to no access to mental health care.

Maybe check that holier-than-thou attitude.

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PR4WN4GE t1_iykrcuj wrote

Replying to PMMEYOURCOOLDRAWINGS (#843,562)

I just fkn said. It's a scapegoat word. It's "the devil". It's a mischaracterization of liberal values. The word is used to put down people trying to become better and acknowledge the ugly truths of our history so we can improve.

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PMMEYOURCOOLDRAWINGS t1_iykrjkt wrote

Replying to PR4WN4GE (#843,587)

Oh you were being sarcastic with your original comment. Hard to tell since it reads exactly like every person on here who isn’t being sarcastic. Use /s online if you don’t want to sound like a right wing nut job.

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AbuQittun t1_iylusxr wrote

Replying to cookiemonster247 (#841,790)

So in other words... it's Florida's fault that people becoming homeless elsewhere come to it's warmer climate? Your logic isn't that great. I think most cities have alot of beggars, but I don't think that beggars are the problem people perceive them to be. Give or don't give, let them beg, but alot of them get benefits but beg for money for other things.

If the cost of living, especially housing, wasn't so high, this problem wouldn't exist.

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wxcode t1_iymgatk wrote

Replying to purplegladys2022 (#845,711)

Dude why are you so upset? It's just a simple data point that counters the narrative of the OP.

Resorting to insults and and profanity because you disagree with the results of a peer reviewed study is strange. It's okay to disagree but.. just weird behavior.

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Jaysyn4Reddit t1_iyoq83t wrote

Well that is a fucking braindead thing to do.

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Traveling_Solo t1_iyskvq1 wrote

Soon: Utah comes up with solution to mentally ill and homeless people "Alligators everywhere!"

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mackotter t1_izw1j1d wrote

"Have you tried bath salts, because ARGHHHHAAAA SCREAMING SKULLS!!!!!"

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