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trekie88 t1_j048ac2 wrote

An interesting idea. I hope it is successful. Alcohol addiction is hard to break. A new method to help addicts is good for humanity.

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MonkeyTacoBreath t1_j04yzc8 wrote

Agreed. And they already discovered ketamine helps with some forms of depression.

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The-Sun-God t1_j0doev7 wrote

And that depression resembles addiction in the brain!

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BourbonInGinger t1_j04pgxc wrote

Sounds promising. The US has a real puritan-esque issue with the experimentation of scheduled drugs. Thanks to the failed trillion dollar war on drugs.

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RestlessAmbivert t1_j05615z wrote

Glad that faster acting treatments like Ketamine therapy are becoming more mainstream. Would have been an amazing thing to have things like that be the norm when I was dealing with heavy depression. There was no way I was touching the laundry list of woefully-named big pharma shot in the darks with 9 miles of side effects and literally zero idea what they were actually doing in the brain.

Really seems like we're headed in a much better direction for effectively treating intense depression, anxiety, PTSD, and so on.

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sexybimbogf t1_j052v8w wrote

Not onion-y. What's next on r/nottheonion, suboxone helps opioid withdrawal?

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SuspectNo7354 t1_j04vtkv wrote

Alcohol numbs the pain these people are fighting. Ketamine has the potential to rewire the neural pathways that cause that pain. Magic shrooms are also being researched due to the same potential healing properties.

I'm pretty sure to get approved for this you have to be seeing a psychiatrist, so a form of therapy is also involved.

Either way it's not a magic pill, it's meant as a form of help as you work through your demons in therapy. Will it be used that way, who knows, probably not based on how anti anxiety meds are used.

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FatherOfLights88 t1_j068pwa wrote

Though they all act quite differently from each other, they tend to carry the same ability(?) to raise the user up out of their pain so that they can see the wounding(?) while not being overwhelmed by it. From this perspective, it's so much easier to see the pain for what it is, feel it, and then stitch the torn pieces back together.

Everything after that is integrating the sessions onto regular(?) reality and paying attention to how things feel different from before. It's pretty remarkable just how much progress a can be made in such a short time.

*(?) = questionable word choice.

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Chard069 t1_j052aka wrote

My old references (Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers comix) portrayed ketamine as a nightmare-inducing psychogen. Is that better or worse than alcoholic dreams?

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tired_giant t1_j08wjyq wrote

Why in the hell is this on nottheonion? OP is obviously not firing on all cylinders.

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Proof_Throat4418 t1_j0j5242 wrote

They call that 'Swapping the witch for the bitch'. Get them off the alcohol only to get them addicted to a much more dangerous substance, Ketamine. That's a good idea. NOT. "Ohh, but we regulate the Ketamine supply..." So, when 'Johnny's' supply is regulated/restricted he goes for the next most available substance, heroin. Yea, great idea, just swap the witch for the bitch.

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Tedstor t1_j044h6d wrote

Fighting fire with fire. Eh?

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Agreeable-Ad1221 t1_j04813d wrote

The terrible thing is that Ketamine is actually easier to quit than alcohol.

Severe alcoholic (the type to routinely go blackout drunk) can actually die going cold turkey on stopping drinking. Alcohol addiction is on par with heroin addiction in how difficult withdrawl is.

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BoomChaka67 t1_j04u4eb wrote

It’s hard even when one isn’t a “blackout drunk”. I had trouble sleeping for months after quitting my nightly 3 glasses of wine.

Sometimes I felt like I was coming out of my skin. (Melatonin helped)

That said, my husband is a recovering alcoholic (25 years sober) and had he gone to rehab without detoxing in a clinic first, he very well may have died. It’s not just a “willpower” thing.

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Agreeable-Ad1221 t1_j04wj6p wrote

The way society treat addiction is horrible, addicts need treatment and the whole system expecting them to just tough it out without ever building proper support systems is just setting them up to fail.

And most ressources to help addicts are generally faith based and don't actually work.

Really proud of you and your husband for going sober!

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BoomChaka67 t1_j051lz5 wrote

Honestly, he really did the hard work. He realized his addiction while still young and sought help. But detox was still necessary.

I was never much of a drinker but became a (so gross to say this) “wine mom” in my 30’s. One glass while making dinner, one glass with dinner, one glass once my chores were done and I could “relax”. Much easier (but still no cake walk) to quit.

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J_Cant_Box t1_j04ohwe wrote

That's like letting a bobcat lose in your house because you have a mouse problem

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MattTheHarris t1_j04qis9 wrote

It's really not when you're getting lab grade shit properly dosed out

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tired_giant t1_j08wxqe wrote

Is ketamine supposed to be “the bobcat”? And alcohol is “the mouse”?

Sounds like you have literally no idea what you are talking about.

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