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jayfeather31 t1_j0w8li3 wrote

Damn. Sweden really keeps track of everything, doesn't it?

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Wojtas_ t1_j0wcbw0 wrote

Except the Polish treasures they "acquired" while invading...

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jimi15 t1_j0ws4kx wrote

You mean stuff looted 300 years ago? Everyone did that back then.

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sixtus_clegane119 t1_j0xqlzr wrote

Museums and places around the world are sending stuff back, could be time for that.

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The_Dynasty_Group t1_j0wul3n wrote

Everyone else is doing it. It’s no big deal

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jimi15 t1_j0wus0o wrote

Yes it is. We have a different idea of whats acceptable nowadays.

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The_Dynasty_Group t1_j0wvain wrote

You’re actually bringing morality into the equation? Psh Christian

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The_Dynasty_Group t1_j0wuj3q wrote

When did Sweden invade Poland? Are you a German trying to deflect?

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Creepernom t1_j0xdtl9 wrote

Have you really never heard of the Deluge?

I'm not arguing that we should get "our" stuff back. I don't care. I'm just annoyed at shitty history knowledge.

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[deleted] t1_j0xyhyq wrote

To be fair, we’ve had a shit tonne of wars in Europe. I probably know a bit about 20 of them or so but I’m not really familiar with that one. I tend to be more familiar with the ones my country has had more of a role in.

It’s probably common knowledge in Poland but if you live in Spain, France or England, you probably have to be a real military history fan to know about it.

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crop028 t1_j0xyaaq wrote

I can tell you this. In American public schools we absolutely learned nothing about this, barely anything outside of America. Of what we did learn it was all Ancient, or about the major colonial powers. I know quite a few fully functioning adults who couldn't label all their continents, never mind Sweden or Poland.

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Omegalazarus t1_j0y1ip6 wrote

As an American, our mid 1700's military history is pretty crowded. No room for some not even regionally impactful war.

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crop028 t1_j0yoruv wrote

This was mid 1600s, and pretty damn regional impactful. Poland-Lithuania was a major power in Europe at the time, and this was the beginning of them losing their power and ceasing to exist over many wars in the next century. We'd know about the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth and how powerful they were if our history left America 1600-1945 for just one of the 12 years.

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The_Dynasty_Group t1_j0y85q5 wrote

I’m an American do you really think I learned that? As if Us Americans would lower Ourselves to learning about wars We weren’t involved in and didn’t start. Lol

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MangoSea323 t1_j0z4w63 wrote

Someone didn't pay attention in world history.

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doktorch t1_j11gzwp wrote

I did, but it focused on British royalty effing with their german, french, and spanish cousins around the world. didn't hear this about Swedish cousins effing their polish cousins (in the 1600s?). meh...was there a take away that we missed...could it have prevented any of the 'world wars'? so sweden used to be a bad ass, but not so much now? poland used to be a big dog, but not so much now

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MangoSea323 t1_j11hyl0 wrote

So world history for you was learning solely about the 1900s world wars and a very, very small amount of European royalty. Got it.

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The_Dynasty_Group t1_j11mnqt wrote

Exactly. If it didn’t have to do with American imperialism then it wasn’t important enough for them to teach Us about in school. Whatever it takes to boost that national pride in one’s own young boon of a country throwing its weight around against the rest of the world and basically sticking Our nose in business that didn’t involve Us but We made it involve Us. America doesn’t get invited to the party? America creates the party

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East0n t1_j0x8xef wrote

Or admitting they helped Pol Pot stay in power so he could torture and kill some more countrymen.

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Rus_agent007 t1_j0xx3er wrote

Het, let it go.... Its definitely not in the Kings Castle. And not in his safe in room 320. I promise.

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Abba_Fiskbullar t1_j0xk66t wrote

Are you talking about the 30 Years War?

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Jennysau t1_j0xzcwz wrote

they really do!

In 1831 the Swedish Navy planted over 300,000 oak trees with the intention of harvesting them for ships 150 years later...they still keep track of them but there aren't any current plans to harvest them.

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CapableWill8706 t1_j0w6ts9 wrote

The North Korean Govermnent is not trustworthy? Who could have known!

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Sprechenhaltestelle t1_j0xjxo3 wrote

According to the article, "Swedish export companies — and left-leaning politicians," the Swedish Export Credit Agency, and the Ministry for Foreign Affairs.

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Chariots487 t1_j0wimni wrote

In fairness, that's partially on Sweden for assuming the world's craziest state would follow the rules.

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jooes t1_j0xookm wrote

"Hey can we borrow 1000 cars?"

"You're gonna give them back, right? Right?!"

No offense to Sweden, but that's clearly on Sweden. Who the fuck lends another country a thousand cars? That country is halfway around the planet too. They were never getting those cars back and they should've known it.

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Few-Cable5130 t1_j0xdcdr wrote

Those 1000 cars are currently with more than, well, North Korea on the classic car market.

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trollsmurf t1_j0wrs38 wrote

"We won't nag about these by now worthless cars if you open your borders and peacefully merge with South Korea."

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--zaxell-- t1_j0x3e2g wrote

We've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty...

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The_Dynasty_Group t1_j0wv0xi wrote

Mwa-ha-ha-ha! We shall purge communism from your nation one way or another!

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AssociateJaded3931 t1_j0wsih5 wrote

Volvo is foolish for not getting the money up front. No way they're sending repo men to North Korea.

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iamamuttonhead t1_j0x6qe5 wrote

That's really on Sweden. Don't be lending 1000 Volvos to anyone. Certainly not North Korea.

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jamcdonald120 t1_j0wsqs0 wrote

and?

[hoatile country with no money, trade, or exports] [has not repayed debt] to [forign contry] is not even news, let alone oniony

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chroncryx t1_j0w8bjk wrote

Oh snap, that would downgrade NK credit rating to "T" (thug / thief).

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ztreHdrahciR t1_j0waox1 wrote

More likely that Jerry Seinfeld will return Tropic of Cancer to the library

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The_Dynasty_Group t1_j0wutl5 wrote

But it’s his favorite novel. And he has a valid claim to it. After 10 years it’s just squatting

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darkest_irish_lass t1_j0x56sh wrote

Im sure NK still has em. Maybe they'll give them back.

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FarSolar t1_j0xvq05 wrote

There are pictures of some of those volvos still driving on North Korean streets actually.

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IQof24 t1_j0x2shi wrote

Kim Il-sung doing a bit of trolling

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Alexstarfire t1_j0xnqaf wrote

I'm getting the feeling they don't intend to pay.

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gypsysniper9 t1_j0xv377 wrote

Invasion time. They would never expect it.

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zubaz69 t1_j0y16f1 wrote

Kim must have read " The Art of the Deal".

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clauderains99 t1_j0y2dj9 wrote

Pretty sure everyone involved knew that was not a loan…

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The_Dynasty_Group t1_j0wudie wrote

Who dares question the super supremacy of the North Korean nation? Like they even have the same game of leadership anymore. Kim Jong Yun is a whole other beast!

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Lelabear t1_j0x2qfs wrote

This made me flash on the book The Girl Who Saved the King of Sweden. There something about Sweden making a gift of cars in exchange for taking a rogue atomic bomb off their hands. ..although I think it involved China, not NK. Always wonder how much fact is behind that guy's fiction.

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AG2dayAG t1_j0x8t12 wrote

After ww3 Sweden can take a piece of North korea

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DennisHakkie t1_j0xpx9k wrote

That the NKs didn’t find use for the industrial equipment surprises me.

Flipside, yeah, this is pretty funny; on one hand no-one knew that they were this down the drain. On the other… The signals were there from the start

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rdldr1 t1_j0xvq30 wrote

What Volvos? —North Korea

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LAESanford t1_j0xxmf7 wrote

Yeeeaaahhh, I don’t think they’ll be getting those back

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shastadakota t1_j0x3npt wrote

Plot twist- Volvo now owned by a Chinese company.

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