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MrLumpykins t1_j4ba19q wrote

Reply to comment by Aleyla in A woman is ordered to repay her employer for time theft by fartingfreddy1

I agree in principal but that doesn't make it ok to commit fraud. I would not choose to work for a company that micromanaged my time like that but if it was the situation them I can't just make up hours I worked and bill the company for them.

Paying hourly for work like this only encourages poor and inefficient work. Better to set a salary and expect the employee to finish the tasks assigned to them each day/week. But that isn't the agreement she had when she started working

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chernobyl169 t1_j4bmifj wrote

> I can't just make up hours I worked and bill the company for them.

Actually, that's exactly how most contractors do it.

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MrLumpykins t1_j4buixh wrote

Then we they get caught committing fraud they should have to pay. Everyone else does it is a kindergarten excuse

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chernobyl169 t1_j4eote3 wrote

Welp, if you think time billing is fraud, good luck going after the lawyer that's charging you in hour increments for two-minute phone calls. Three short calls in half an hour? That's three billable hours. Whether you think it's fraud is irrelevant - the law does not, because the people that are in the business of law make a lot of money from that being the case.

"Time theft" only exists for employees. This is by design to protect wealth, like most laws regarding money. It's not fraud to bill for a made-up amount of time, it's literally how all time billing except for employee wages is done. Only "wage earners" are paid by the minute. Some employers actually calculate down to the six second interval (tenth of a minute). Meanwhile, the overnight parking garage gets to round up to the nearest four hour increment. Who's really "committing" anything here - the lady getting her job done quickly, or the folks claiming they overpaid after the job is done?

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