Bar_Sinister t1_j6btfdf wrote on January 29, 2023 at 5:13 AM

And it's weird, because ChatGPT doesn't really help of the students don't understand what's it's handing them as answers. It's like using a calculator before you learn the basic principles of math. We all use calculators, but we understood addition and multiplication first.

Since ChatGPT is probably going to move to a paywall status (which means students with money will still use it but rest of the kids will actually have to learn) it won't be the scourge they think it will be, but the still are going to have to develop new teaching models. Education isn't just getting to the right answer, but if I remember the phrase correctly, "showing your work."

Burstar1 t1_j6cn362 wrote on January 29, 2023 at 11:28 AM

>We all use calculators, but the education system made sure we understood addition and multiplication first.

FTFY

First year courses, where the critical goal of the class is to ensure the student understands the concepts (for example of how to write an essay), should not allow AI to write their assignments. Once these core skills have been learned and demonstrated I see no issue using ChatGPT and the like. If and when it fucks up you know better and can fix it and are responsible if you don't, just like in the real world.

chang-e_bunny t1_j6dbls4 wrote on January 29, 2023 at 3:22 PM

Thanks. Even I remember thinking how stupid some kids were for complaining about learning how to multiply and divide the old fashioned way when it was much easier for them to just push a few buttons on a calculator. If you (and all of society) has no concept of the fundamentals, then you're just gonna be a dumb monkey getting the wrong answers out of a calculator just like ChatGPT is a dumb AI that needs a human to understand the fundamentals. There's so much human curation that goes into making AI look smart, and the humans need to be smart enough to do the damned curation.