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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_j6st4r0 wrote

/>you create normal thing

/>someone ruins it

/>"Why did you create such a bad thing? >:("

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With $5000 a month per bed (far higher than average NY rent), the shelters are almost certainly nicer, or were at one point, than sleeping in a tent in a parking lot. The nature of addiction, mental illness, and desperation made the shelters far worse than they were when they were built.

The solution for this is a strike system with the final strike being institutionalization. It is not fair to shelter-residents who want to put their lives back together to also have to fare against criminally insane, chemically-addicted thieves and assaulters.

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co_matic t1_j6sv54u wrote

Shelters were never a "good" thing. They are the bare minimum solution created by a society that believes all homeless are idle criminals who deserve nothing and should be made to disappear.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j6t5gzk wrote

Bare minimum at luxury costs.

The only thing worse than this was the city of SF running a homeless encampment in a parking lot.

They were paying 5k per month per tent to a "homelessness NGO" who was operating that parking lot (3 meals a day, security and portable washrooms)

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co_matic t1_j6t63hi wrote

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drpvn t1_j6t90ve wrote

High executive salaries at these nonprofits are gross but they aren’t why costs are out of control. You could eliminate executive pay entirely and not make a dent in what the city pays.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j6tm437 wrote

It's probably stuff like this on every level:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-comptroller-tom-dinapli-audits-brooklyn-homeless-shelter-waste-20220919-rvczwi3zhjcsppewpey4ivuaxi-story.html

Those shelters also provides "other services". For example, imagine how they bill health services for homeless people who lacks any health coverage.

I wouldn't be surprised if a typical shelter-provided "health care check-in" bills the city $400 for a 3 min consultation.

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th3guitarman t1_j6tglq8 wrote

You people see big number and froth at the mouth. When have you ever known money set aside for something actually go to their intended target? Wasn't there a big stink about the PPP loans cuz all the large corps sucked up all the money?

And you think the homeless people in these shelters are caked up?

Have you ever spoken to a homeless person? Or do you just read articles written by other heartless assholes?

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koreamax t1_j6tvjif wrote

Two things can be wrong at once.

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th3guitarman t1_j6u1phr wrote

Yeah, but if we ignore the corruption, i dont feel as bad for also wanting to be corrupt.

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