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Shreddersaurusrex t1_j6yc6su wrote

Reply to comment by occasional_cynic in NYPD Sweeps Migrants from Manhattan Hotel Following Days of Protest by drpvn

Then there’s the matter of the US’ interference and involvement in the destabilization of SA countries

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BakedBread65 t1_j6yqozp wrote

And allowing mass migration of talented and able bodied workers from those countries is not going to help them

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occasional_cynic t1_j6ydubv wrote

I mean, the Soviet Union and Cuba did a great deal more (and then there is Spanish colonialism and the lack of creating domestic institutions), but you cannot blame every problem on external factors.

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Shreddersaurusrex t1_j6ye6c9 wrote

Having a holistic view of the situation is important though.

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Imaginary-Bread1829 t1_j6ythu1 wrote

Understandably, but blaming other counties only simplifies a complex situation. Ireland was under British control for centuries. Even up to the 20th century, they imposed trade barriers & high tariffs. The Irish economy was awful in the 1980s, but was able to recover in the 1990s, due to government policies that benefited the country & the shift to a different-focused economy.

The best biggest factor to blame is current government corruption and the leaders those poor citizens have to lean on.

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movingtobay2019 t1_j6yfl2h wrote

Not relevant to our immigration policy. Like it or not, countries act in their best interest.

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Oisschez t1_j6zyn3a wrote

It’s absolutely relevant, we can stop doing the things that create asylum seekers in the first place.

Shrugging our shoulders that “it is how it is, nothing we can do” is leading our world down too many bad paths

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BATMAN_UTILITY_BELT t1_j6ylo8f wrote

Sovereignty and the rule of law are infinitely more important than a “holistic view”.

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Imaginary-Bread1829 t1_j6yqm3t wrote

How did the U.S. destabilize SA countries? Economically, Latin America didn’t open up international markets until the 1980s, after the Latin American debt crisis. The continent was pretty self-sufficient. Granted, globally(it wasn’t the U.S. alone) they weren’t offered the best trading deals, but I think the lack of organized government has been worse for the people.

The governments have driven a lot of businesses out of the countries, been unable to impose an uncorrupt taxing system and mishandled a lot of government funds. I think you can blame the U.S. for a lot of global problems, but at a certain point blaming the United States is just a scapegoat for bigger internal problems that seem impossible to fix.

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Rottimer t1_j6zefrp wrote

Shh, shh, shhh - we don't address underlying issues or root causes in this sub.

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