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LunchMasterFlex t1_j8w9uy0 wrote

Everybody wants their fancy ramen, but don’t nobody care about the people who schlepped it uptown. I hate this elitist bullshit.

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nonlawyer t1_j8x17t9 wrote

My hot take: just ban the delivery apps. Things were fine when you had to pick up the phone and call a place that’s actually in your neighborhood.

Since that’s never gonna happen, at least ban the gross gamification algorithms that force the delivery guys to ride like daredevils or risk being demoted and kicked from being able to work.

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whateverisok t1_j8xl694 wrote

Due to COVID, a lot of local mom & pop places closed, so now you're going out further and further to get what you want - it could be 40-50 min time I take off from work just to get whatever I ordered from a local spot back to my apartment.

I still go in-person to the local spots and not the chains, and order there - I need to walk my dog anyway, so it's more convenient.

But I know a lot of people who won't do that even if the place is only a 5 min walk away, because it also ends up taking like 30 min by the time you get ready to go out, go up & down the elevator, and get there

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Shreddersaurusrex OP t1_j91fdd4 wrote

Yeah so Doordash and Grubhub are the worst with pickup/deliver by times. DD gives violations for not completing pickups or deliveries by a certain time. If you get enough it can lead to deactivation.

I think that the apps are great but that they need to pay the workers fairly. Ppl need to tip fairly vs just turning a blind eye to the exploitative nature of the system. There’s a cycle of apps making work hard->workers being frustrated->customers not being satisfied.

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bklyn1977 t1_j8wg6dq wrote

Maybe the delivery apps should be subsidizing this.

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Shreddersaurusrex OP t1_j8wpmqw wrote

Lol they classify the workers as independent contractors to avoid diff laws & regulations.

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olli_bombastico t1_j8wkfcy wrote

You mean the customers.

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creativepositioning t1_j8x94d3 wrote

The customers already do... if you order on seamless or door dash, it's something like 10-15% fee on top of a delivery fee, on top of the tip.

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olli_bombastico t1_j8xbfp8 wrote

That's the point. Why would companies subsidize it while they can just push the cost to he customers.

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creativepositioning t1_j8xc7yn wrote

Yet the customers already pay and the riders get no support...

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olli_bombastico t1_j8y5fbb wrote

They should ask their bosses for bathrooms. Oh wait, they are their own bosses.

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creativepositioning t1_j8yc25q wrote

Yeah, we shouldn't allow Seamless and Door Dash to treat their workers and categorize them this way...

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Bobbyscousin t1_j8wr0sc wrote

That's the way it always is in NYC ... an Boston ... and LA ... and Seattle ...

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Die-Nacht t1_j8wsc0c wrote

The worst is whenever there's a new bike lane being proposed and ppl say "how many ppl even bike? Deliver workers don't count".

I've heard that many times. Ofc when asked "why don't they count?" they get very quiet.

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gnukidsontheblock t1_j8wvktr wrote

Probably because what they ride are more akin to motorcycles rather than bikes, and theyre the most egregious when going the wrong way down those lanes and running reds. I dont order delivery because I dont want to compound on those problems, but I also get there isnt a perfect “lane” for them to use, sidewalk is obv bad but riding in traffic isnt ideal.

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