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SolitaryMarmot t1_j8x1x80 wrote

I looked for instances of delivery guys killing pedestrians or drivers and didn't see any in a brief news search.
NYC has 2020 stats up for cyclist on pedestrian injuries and fatalites. There were 320 pedestrian injuries and 55 cyclist injuries. There were no pedestrian fatalities and 1 cyclist fatality. In context there were 6495 pedestrian injuries by cars and 95 fatalites. There were 5175 cyclist injuries by cars and 24 cyclist fatalities.

Being against bike parking as a safety measure while not simultaneously not demanding the streets be shut down to car parking seems either disineguious or irrational to me.

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creativepositioning t1_j8xaf9i wrote

Do you think most crashes or incidents by delivery guys get reported? I'd think any delivery person on delivery person incident would not be reported.

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mowotlarx t1_j8xuebo wrote

Of course they are reported. Every vehicular injury and death is reported because they end up in police reports. If delivery guys were killing people we'd have known by now. Be serious.

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creativepositioning t1_j8xv3nj wrote

>Of course they are reported. Every vehicular injury and death is reported because they end up in police reports. If delivery guys were killing people we'd have known by now. Be serious.

No they don't. I was literally hit by a car and the cops came and didn't do anything and kept it out of the statistics. You are naive.

>If delivery guys were killing people we'd have known by now

What the fuck are you talking about? No one is saying delivery guys are killing people. I'm saying they get into crashes all the time and none of its reported, to the cops, to insurance...

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mowotlarx t1_j8xwkdf wrote

Right so there's a deep state conspiracy where zero delivery bike accidents are reported to the police, is that right? A secret epidemic you can only back up with vibes?

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creativepositioning t1_j8xxvvt wrote

You are on some insane strawman about people getting killed, as opposed to the tons of crashes that happen and go unreported all the time, which is what I'm talking about.

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SolitaryMarmot t1_j8xc5lg wrote

I've never seen any evidence that these types of accidents are under reported. And I can't imagine why they would be underreported if someone has damages that are more than an insurance deductible. If there are accidents unreported they are probably like the minor ones where cars strike pedestrians but there are no damages.

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creativepositioning t1_j8xlfyz wrote

Why? Because the riders have questionable citizenship statuses, don't want to deal with the liability, aren't going to wait around for cops, etc, etc. Honestly, hard to take you seriously if you are actually arguing this.

>And I can't imagine why they would be underreported if someone has damages that are more than an insurance deductible.

The guy delivering your chinese food isn't make a claim on insurance for any damages because a) they aren't waiting for a police report, b) they don't have insurance that covers them biking. Honestly - what the fuck are you talking about?

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SolitaryMarmot t1_j8xn7zh wrote

What the hell does immigration status have to do with an insurance claim? Wut? Lol

The cops aren't going to ask for a valid visa for any type of accident. You don't have to have a valid visa to get a drivers license even for a car in NYC.

But the cops aren't even going to come for a bike accident unless someone is very hurt or there's more than $500 worth of damage. They wont even come for a car accident with minor damage. The only time your immigration status may matter is if you are charged with a crime after an crash which happens very rarely. Is it possible there has been a case where an undocumented delivery guy was working shit faced drunk and ran over another delivery guy and killed them? I guess it's possible but it's never happened. At least not to my knowledge.

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DisasterFartiste t1_j8xmb4a wrote

As someone who has been hit by a bike and a car while walking….much rather get hit by a bike lol

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