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us1087 t1_j7baacu wrote

There is no New York without Brooklyn. I said what I said. 🙂

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Yourgrandsonishere t1_j7bgg38 wrote

You’re not wrong but that could be stated with almost all boroughs except Staten Island.

Perhaps the most cultured and storied are Manhattan, Brooklyn and The X, of course all are storied and cultured.

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us1087 t1_j7bjaj6 wrote

True. I guess my statement was more a testament to the notion that had Brooklyn not become part of New York, it would be hard to imagine New York as the remarkable place it is and was. It’s the sum of its parts that make unique.

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Yourgrandsonishere t1_j7bly1b wrote

It certainly would’ve been an alternate NYC but its close proximity would’ve rendered it essentially the same.

Personally as someone who barely leaves Manhattan (and if I do I mostly go to the Bronx), Manhattan is the center.

That said, I have several fond memories of Brooklyn and have about 55 more years to make more!

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Accomplished_Aim_607 t1_j7br2ae wrote

NYC is definitely NYC without Bronx. A lot of people never go to the Bronx, myself included. When we do it’s for Yankees games.

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woodcider t1_j7btr5g wrote

The Bronx is the home of Hip Hop which is integral to NYC culture. Many old school entertainers and comedians came from the Bronx. The Bronx holds its own even if people are pedestrian.

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Accomplished_Aim_607 t1_j7buxyi wrote

New Jersey is the home of Thomas Edison’s research lab, which commercialized the lightbulb. The lightbulb is integral to NYC culture. No one considers NJ an integral part of NYC.

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truthofmasks t1_j7c697w wrote

> No one considers NJ an integral part of NYC.

Unsurprisingly, I've met some people from Jersey who do.

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actualtext t1_j7caqep wrote

This seems so wrong to me. What exactly is New York to you? Just the parts you visit frequently?

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Accomplished_Aim_607 t1_j7d1s7i wrote

I live in Manhattan and don’t know anyone that goes to the Bronx aside for Yankees games. There’s extremely few reasons to go to the Bronx unless you live there

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-_SophiaPetrillo_- t1_j7d54e0 wrote

Bronx Zoo, Botanical Gardens, Fordham, all the “hill schools”, Bronx science, wave hill, Van Cortlandt park, orchard beach, city island, Arthur Avenue (the true little Italy). Just to name a few. 😂😂😂😂

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Rottimer t1_j7gja6l wrote

It's hilarious, because the richest people in the tri-state area send their kids to private schools in the Bronx. Riverdale Country, Horace Mann, Ethical Fieldston. . . all with tuition rates that rival Ivy League colleges.

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Yourgrandsonishere t1_j7dd48p wrote

Hip hop was born in the bronx, shich gave way to rap.

Dj’ing too and a lot more. They got the best Xoo and an amazing garden.

I won’t lie though, bx a little scary at times lmao, but BX is ingrained into NYC.

The list is much longer, maybe others can chime in.

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Rottimer t1_j7gilgw wrote

Yeah, except for, you know, all the people that live there, which is just shy of the number of people that live in Manhattan.

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liondactyl t1_j7cd487 wrote

There’s no reason to go to the other outer boroughs than the one you live in.

I’m from Queens and I’ve lived in Manhattan, the Bronx, and I work in Brooklyn.

Brooklyn has a distinct culture compared to all the other boroughs. Much more homey and like it’s own small city. This makes sense given Brooklyn’s history.

New York is Manhattan, Queens, The Bronx, SI, and parts of North Jersey. These are places that are only as populated as they are because of New York City expansion. Brooklyn would have been developed as its own city without New York, and it has the character of a distinct town. All of the other surrounding areas needed NYC to develop their culture and so they all share a similar New York vibe.

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djn24 t1_j7byj5g wrote

It's hard to predict what would have happened to the outer boroughs if they continued to develop independently of Manhattan.

Considering how much the Jersey side of the river has grown in the same timeframe, I think those areas would have still grown into something similar as they are today. But transportation projects would have definitely had more red tape at points, so that could have slowed down the ability of people to move further away from downtown Manhattan.

As long as the transportation options exist, the culture probably would too.

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truthofmasks t1_j7c6hft wrote

It would've also slowed or prevented the development of a lot of city-wide institutions, like CUNY and the NYPL (which I know is really only the Bronx, Manhattan, and SI, but still).

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RyzinEnagy t1_j7dqsws wrote

Had Brooklyn voted no the whole consolidation plan would have fallen apart. Joining Manhattan and Brooklyn was the whole point, because they wanted to guarantee remaining the largest city in America, and why the Brooklyn Bridge was built. They probably try again or find some way to join anyway, but yeah.

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