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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_j9dgrqs wrote

SF and LA are much nicer than NYC? I beg to differ

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AceContinuum t1_j9dj6gh wrote

The previous commenter may be thinking of places like Palo Alto or Marin County that are plenty expensive ("equivalent to cost of NYC"). But those places are really much more comparable to Westchester or the North Shore of LI than NYC.

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magnetic_yeti t1_j9dnovy wrote

Palo Alto is not particularly nice, though it is absurdly expensive. It’s fine if you’re OK sitting in your car for 30+ minutes every day, and having to drive everyone everywhere, including if you want to go for a run or to the dog park. But don’t expect to hang out with friends unless all your friends make $500k/year or more, or you drive for an hour each way (so you better not drink!)

It also practically only has 3+ bedroom homes: in NY you can buy a place for around 1 million, in Palo Alto those don’t exist. There is currently ONE 2 bed townhouse at $2 million for sale, right on the border of East Palo Alto. Then there’s a 2 bed bungalow (900 square feet) for sale for 2.6 million.

And you need a car! I cannot stress enough: you can’t live in Palo Alto comfortably without one. And your neighbors are all driving $60k+ cars, so add at least $1k each month in payments, insurance and maintenance. And enjoy your one “downtown” street with about as much to do as exists on the third-most-interesting commercial street in any Brooklyn neighborhood. Like imagine if the only place you could go grab a bite was the time out market building in dumbo. That’s as exciting as the entirety of Palo Alto’s downtown.

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AceContinuum t1_j9dogbj wrote

Exactly! Yet to a certain demographic - those who live in Palo Alto, and those who wish they could afford to live there - that kind of "premium suburban" lifestyle sounds like a dream. Wouldn't it be so nice to sit in traffic in a $60k+ car??

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_j9dticw wrote

It's a stockholm syndrome type thing. Their job forces them there so they have to pretend to like it if they want to be satisfied with their life.

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payeco t1_j9ejt0k wrote

I don’t know man. I spend a lot of time in the Valley and a lot of people really do love living there. I mean the weather really is incredible year round if you’re not someone that cares about really warm weather.

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PomegranateChance502 t1_j9e24jn wrote

Plenty of people could and would say the same about new York City lmfao. Get over yourselves

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_j9fvga6 wrote

Lmao does your life consist entirely of nyc bashing?

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PomegranateChance502 t1_j9i4gj0 wrote

No. I just find it ironic how small minded many New Yorkers are about the world. I don't think anyone who values quality of life could really stand to live in nyc. But the people living there fiercely defend the city. Which is a pretty great comparison to Stockholm syndrome if you ask me.

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oreosfly t1_j9djb4c wrote

I'd throw Orange County to that list as well.

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