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[deleted] t1_ja3wlqi wrote

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froggythefish t1_ja3z5xa wrote

Another word for government worker is public servant. Their purpose is not to serve themselves, it’s to serve the public. The minute you introduce pay to the equation the goal is no longer to serve but to profit.

Look at doctors, in nations with universal healthcare doctors use tried and true methods, known to be reliable. In Cuba doctors get paid relatively little and have to sacrifice a lot, this is why Cuba has some of the best healthcare on earth. In the US, where healthcare is not universal, doctors use experimental untrustworthy inefficient methods, which cost more, because the doctors goal is not to help but to make the most money.

A government worker should be treated the same as our most vulnerable, the poorest. If the poorest are suffering, the government worker is not doing their job, and should suffer as they are not doing their job. If the poorest are comfortable and healthy, the government worker is doing a good job, and should be rewarded with comfort and health. This is pretty basic.

Once you introduce pay their goal is no longer to help the people, but to do so in new experimental inefficient expensive ways, to funnel the most money into their pockets. If they wouldn’t work without pay, they shouldn’t be trusted to help others as clearly that’s not their goal.

This is incredibly basic. Get over the money-is-everything philosophy this genocidal corrupt nation has taught you.

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whodattguy t1_ja3zwfl wrote

Servants get paid. Pay me $1,000,000 and I’ll serve you too.

You’re thinking of Slaves, not servants.

This is a free market. If the government wants servants they can compete for talent just like private businesses.

I’m not a fan of the mayor or the brother being in that position but public servants get paid. Suggestion to the contrary is crazy.

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froggythefish t1_ja40oj0 wrote

The government is not a company.

I told you to stop thinking like this, this philosophy just drives you deeper and deeper into this silly rabbit hole. Economy class lied, sorry. Read a book. I recommend kropotkins conquest of bread. This isn’t an insult of intelligence, you were just miseducated. Reeducate yourself, stop wasting a perfectly good brain on such silly beliefs.

The government is a slave to the people. That’s not communist thinking, even locke agreed. The government only exists if the people say it does and allow it to do so and are satisfied with it. The governments job is not to profit or make money or be rewarded, it is to serve the people, only then will it be rewarded at the discretion of the people.

If the government doesn’t want to be a slave to the people, that’s authoritarianism, and the government may as well be abolished if it does not serve the people above all else.

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whodattguy t1_ja41woc wrote

Government does the people’s will. Government employs individuals to do the will of the people. That doesn’t mean that those that work for government don’t get paid.

You get paid to do the will of the people. If you don’t want to pay government workers then purchase robots and AI to do that work for us. People get compensated. Period.

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froggythefish t1_ja42jml wrote

The government isn’t serving the peoples will, clearly.

There are homeless on the street, is that your will? People can’t afford food and clothing and healthcare, is that your will? The average person is spending like half the money they take home on just rent, is that your will? There are drugs on the street, is that your will? Little kids can’t eat, and go to schools filled with violence and bullying, is that your will?

To ensure that the government serves the peoples will, the government workers should be rewarded with the same quality of life they give the most vulnerable. If the most vulnerable are suffering, the government did not serve the peoples will to reduce suffering, and so they are not rewarded. If the most vulnerable are comfortable, the government served the peoples will to reduce suffering, and so the government is rewarded with comfort.

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Rottimer t1_ja4sh0s wrote

Something tells me that you've never been to Cuba. Most Cuban doctors either sign up for the Cuban government to send them overseas where they can make more money, or they leave and go overseas themselves to send back money to their families. You've got a warped view of the world and should probably get out, get a job, see it for yourself.

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froggythefish t1_ja4tqz0 wrote

Source needed

Cuba does indeed send doctors overseas! The fact this tiny sanctioned island nation recovering from decades of slavery which has been invaded by the US, can still have enough healthcare to provide medical aid to other nations, shows just how good this system is.

Cuba has the most doctors per person and by quite a bit. The US however, has less doctors per person than North Korea and Mexico… yikes.

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