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socialcommentary2000 t1_j7vzghs wrote

Reply to comment by ctindel in Manhattan rents hit an all-time high in January by WarrenBuffetsDriver

This is ridiculous. Mainly because they've been trying to do this for almost 15 years and it doesn't work.

The numbers do not lie. There have been some specific tragedies, but this place hasn't really gotten that much more dangerous in an absolute sense.

Mainly because we're all not huffing lead as a main part of our existence anymore. Funny how that works. We're literally not being bad enough to each other.

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ctindel t1_j7w0lvr wrote

> The numbers do not lie.

Numbers lie all the time. They lie when police don't enforce the laws (traffic or otherwise), they lie when DAs don't even bother to prosecute crimes, they lie when DAs downgrade felonies to misdemeanors.

If people's jobs and careers depend on there being less violent crime based on certain measurements, you better believe those measurements are going down one way or another. But this city is more dangerous than it was in 2019.

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socialcommentary2000 t1_j7w85si wrote

>If people's jobs and careers depend on there being less violent crime based on certain measurements, you better believe those measurements are going down one way or another. But this city is more dangerous than it was in 2019.

But...the thing is, and I say this as someone that's particularly close to the NYPD, the numbers are not working for them internally.

They are staffed at a level for a city that no longer exists. It's a city that had around 900 thousand violent crime incidents a year..e.g. the early 80's. That simply does not exist anymore and the hiring spree that they went on during the Dinkins administration is now over 30 years in the rearview. This means that many of the officer lines that were created and filled at the time are now nearing, at or beyond their 30 and they can ride off into the sunset with a fat pension.

Every last one of those guys and gals that retires is another round were the NYPD has to justify their staffing levels to the City and the State. That's a hard sell if the numbers aren't there to justify it.

And they are not.

They literally are not. I'm not kidding when I said above that we are literally not being bad enough to each other anymore. Because we are not.

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ctindel t1_j7w97gs wrote

I agree its not the 1970s or 1980s. Nobody serious is saying it is. But you know when it also wasn't? The 1950s and the 1960s when the city went on the slow decline into lawlessness and crime, which is what this feels like.

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frugalbruin t1_j7wao26 wrote

Were you there in 50s and 60s to make a valid comparison?

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ctindel t1_j7wgkb4 wrote

Are you trying to argue with the notion that between periods of lower crime and higher crime there was a period where crime was increasing?

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Embarrassed_Big372 t1_j7xgter wrote

I agree. My close buddy had his electric bike stolen and the detectives flat out told him they would do everything not to report it as larceny so that their precinct didn’t have shit numbers for the year.

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