Submitted by Darth_Monkey t3_111dn7v in nyc
cdavidg4 t1_j8ecf4l wrote
Reply to comment by elizabeth-cooper in MULTIPLE PEDESTRIANS STRUCK BY U-HAUL TRUCK IN BAY RIDGE, BROOKLYN by Darth_Monkey
Intentionally, unintentionally, following a mechanical failure, after suffering a medical episode.
These are all additional statements and don't change the base statement that a driver hit someone with their car. Which is accurate in all of the above scenarios.
elizabeth-cooper t1_j8edh1y wrote
That's just not how any of this works. They can't write headlines like that. They could write, "John allegedly hit pedestrian with car" but that's not a fact.
"Person hit by car" is a fact.
"John allegedly hit person with his car" is speculation.
newestindustry t1_j8eq8jx wrote
So would it be appropriate for me to say "you have chosen the dumbest hill possible to die on", or would i need an "allegedly" in there?
thebruns t1_j8f03tm wrote
It's a fascinating example of "im not owned! im not owned!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob to start the week off.
cdavidg4 t1_j8eef5v wrote
A different scenario. A 6 year shoots his father with a gun.
Under your thinking, the headline should read "Father shot with gun" and not "6 year old shoots father with gun" as that's speculative.
We don't know intensions or if somehow the gun went off accidently or missfired or a strong gust of wind did it. A non-passive headline with all parties noted is more accurate.
elizabeth-cooper t1_j8ef2w1 wrote
They write headlines like that all the time.
>Father of three shot dead after getting caught in hotel gunfight on visit to son’s college
Shot dead by a gun not being held by a person?????
Obviously not.
cdavidg4 t1_j8efnel wrote
And they also use the headline "Drive hits pedestrian" all the time.
https://www.denverpost.com/2023/01/08/denver-driver-hits-four-pedestrians-sidewalk-downtown/
So your statement that they "can't write headlines like that" is obviously false.
elizabeth-cooper t1_j8eg2q2 wrote
They're quoting the police, which is very different than making their own determination.
>Driver hits four pedestrians on sidewalk in downtown Denver, police say
cdavidg4 t1_j8egvl5 wrote
It's doesn't state intent or guilt so how is it different? It simply states fact.
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