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AnacharsisIV t1_janixme wrote

So, your argument is "We should let Jews abuse children, because the extant, physical harm being inflicted upon children is less important than potential antisemitism"?

Have you ever read "The Ones who Walk Away from Omelas" by chance?

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arrogant_ambassador t1_janj3aq wrote

That’s an absurd argument and not at all what I’m saying. I’m saying all this negative attention is careless and unbalanced and the Times rarely highlights positive aspects of the Hasidic lifestyle.

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AnacharsisIV t1_janjan7 wrote

Ok, but... shouldn't someone be receiving negative attention for abusing children?

Why is it the NYT's job to promote anyone's livestyle? What do you believe the purpose of journalism is in a civil society?

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arrogant_ambassador t1_janjq6u wrote

I believe the NYT is not objective in its reporting when it comes to the Hasidic community and has made it a goal to highlight as many social ills as possible within it.

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AnacharsisIV t1_jank267 wrote

Do you believe the NYT is objective in its reporting of any other religious movements and/or cults?

Again, we agree that there is child abuse in Hassidic run Yeshivas, correct? It's happening and the NYT is not fabricating that.

Is the NYT required to, say, publish an article about how Jim Jones was a crusader for civil rights and equality among African Americans? Do we have to have a puff piece on Tom Cruise for every article about Scientology's forced labor?

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arrogant_ambassador t1_janlbsw wrote

I don’t much care to philosophically debate the benefits of objective journalism when people’s lives are at stake. You’re also showing a profound bias by stating that Hasidic Judaism is a cult.

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AnacharsisIV t1_janm14a wrote

I said "religious movement and/or cult." Considering it's properly referred to as the "Hassidic Movement" I assumed that'd be relatively uncontroversial. It's literally a spiritual revival movement, from which both cults and non-cults have originated.

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trowaynyc t1_jaoa58p wrote

It is a reporters Job to report on things like this.

Other religions like islam and christianity are ridiculed almost constantly in pop culture. Do not act like criticism of child abuse is “anti-semitism”

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trowaynyc t1_jaoa6o8 wrote

It is a reporters Job to report on things like this.

Other religions like islam and christianity are ridiculed almost constantly in western culture. Do not conflate criticism of child abuse to “anti-semitism”

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ChocolatePain t1_jap1l8h wrote

What's so great about it?

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arrogant_ambassador t1_jap484x wrote

Ask someone who’s Hasidic. My understanding is rich culture and a real sense of community, people know their neighbors and help each other out in ways small and large.

Either way, we should give the same leeway to the Hasidic lifestyle that we do to everyone else, no?

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ChocolatePain t1_jap5rk4 wrote

That's basically ever religion my dude. And no one intelligent assumes all Hasidics are bad because of this article. An anti-semite will be that way regardless.

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