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Dreamtown_Comix t1_jb4r5sm wrote

That’s a dumb argument because an asshole driver can kill you whereas an asshole bicyclist can knock you down

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jb4wjdo wrote

That’s all the more reason why cyclist should be discouraging other riders from playing stupid games with drivers. Blowing a red light puts you in direct danger of getting hit.

Stop encouraging cyclist to bust mirrors, scratch paint, dent panels, purposely slow down in front of drivers. Shit like that should be downvoted, but it’s not.

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Dreamtown_Comix t1_jb522jf wrote

I feel like you’re mad about an argument no one is making

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jb543sz wrote

I feel like you’re not familiar with r/nycbike and r/micromobilitynyc or even live in NYC for that matter.

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Dreamtown_Comix t1_jb5fetw wrote

Well I feel like you live in Ronkonkoma and are mad you can’t park your F-350. Just take the LIRR my friend

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jb5gham wrote

I actually grew up here and live in the city. You think the entirety of NYC looks like Manhattan and it’s far from the truth.

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Dreamtown_Comix t1_jb5gudu wrote

Queen’s boulevard has been ruined by cars just as much as 8th Avenue

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jb5ppl9 wrote

How has it been ruined by cars? What was it like before cars?

The city could easily build paths underneath/above the roadway for pedestrians. Just like they do for the LIE and Van Wyck Expressway nearby.

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Dreamtown_Comix t1_jb60406 wrote

Queens blvd. and several similar roads (Linden blvd, kings highway, etc) were proposed to be built around light rail however Robert Moses opted to design them so that public transit could NEVER be added. This design only served wealthier single family suburbanites who would then drive their cars everywhere, creating more traffic. So it’s not really what queens blvd was but more what it could have been.

Also pedestrian bridges are hugely inconvenient and tunnels always become disgusting/dangerous.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jb69t1t wrote

I actually like the light-rail option, reminds me of San Francisco’s Embarcadero Street. Which also has busy intersections. What’s stopping the city from adding the light rails now?

The tunnels underneath could be well lit and connected to the subway stations below like a lot of subway stations in Manhattan around time square, Rockefeller, Penn station and Grand Central station.

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Dreamtown_Comix t1_jb70k5l wrote

Yes. The embarcadero is a nicer road than queens blvd. Queens blvd was built intentionally too narrow to allow the eventual addition of light rail. Basically, they chose drivers slight convenience over transit users large inconvenience. The it only takes that train on the embarcadero 15 minutes to cover the entire length.

As for the tunnels: No! Since humans require fresh air and sunlight, if there are gonna be tunnels leave them for the machines

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elizabeth-cooper t1_jb4ywll wrote

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Dreamtown_Comix t1_jb529ww wrote

Sure but what’s the fatality rate? 0.01%?

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elizabeth-cooper t1_jb53anb wrote

The car accident fatality rate in NYC is <.01% so I'll agree that the bicycle accident fatality rate is lower than that. But the point is that it can and does happen. I also know an older person who broke her wrist being knocked down by a cyclist. A bicycle accident isn't a joke, especially for the elderly.

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Dreamtown_Comix t1_jb5d92j wrote

Sure but again the same is true of cars that not many times more so. Additionally if our infrastructure was more bike-centric pedestrians would know where to look out for cyclists

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