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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdhyx9t wrote

> Police say the crook, who has a dark complexion and slim build

A black guy. Just say a black guy. Because we all know if it was a white guy, they wouldn’t use “light complexion,” would they now?

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sendphotopls t1_jdibtow wrote

I mean you're just wrong. "Dark complexion" can include Dominicans, Colombians, Hondurans, etc. and none of those people would identify as black. The most accurate verbiage to use in a case like this is a description of complexion instead of an assumption of race.

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thoughtsarefalse t1_jdifrk5 wrote

I would also add like more regions to that list too. Filipinos, south asians, and more can all hit darker skin tones, not only people with african heritage.

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NoobNup t1_jdjguth wrote

there are black dominican, colombians, and hondurians. Also if it was a brown hispanic, most of the time they would say hispanic, or even go into specific race, like mexican, or hondurian. It's only for black americans that they say "teens", with no description at all

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Rottimer t1_jdjmcey wrote

>most of the time they would say hispanic, or even go into specific race, like mexican, or hondurian

No, they wouldn't, because they only have a grainy picture to go off of. And since when is Mexican or Honduran a race?

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tonka737 t1_jdjg9ip wrote

Those would fill out black on any US government form.

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BakedBread65 t1_jdinomk wrote

> none of those people would identify as black

Is people’s race determined solely based on what they identify as.?

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sendphotopls t1_jdiqa3n wrote

I’m not phrasing it as a matter of opinion, these people would be objectively categorized as Hispanic or Latino.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdidmwo wrote

We’re not talking about what they’d identify as. We’re talking about what American society identifies them as.

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JuniperusRain t1_jdikf0w wrote

There are plenty of races that include darker complexions that your average American wouldn't consider black even just looking at them (e.g., Indians). There's more to looking black than just skin tone, there's facial features, hair type, etc

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdil45f wrote

We’re talking skin tone here, not other physical characteristics.

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JuniperusRain t1_jdilmou wrote

Yes. That is my point. You cannot automatically assume the person is black based solely on the description "darker complexion."

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdiltq8 wrote

But we do, and therefore we can.

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sendphotopls t1_jdiqefw wrote

You’re just ignorant

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdiqhgz wrote

In what way?

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sendphotopls t1_jdiqnyt wrote

Oh shut the fuck up, playing dumb asking questions about anything anyone says here because you have no rebuttal for your ignorant bullshit

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdiqzfe wrote

Lol you mean asking you to explain your accusations is me playing dumb?

What ignorant bullshit?

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wwcfm t1_jdle5vl wrote

You’re ignorant for assuming “darker complexion” automatically means black and you’re apparently dumb as fuck too for needing someone to explain that to you. How embarrassing.

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89titanium t1_jdi12ez wrote

Actually they would. All their crime stories only describe complexions. You're just obsessed with race for some reason. https://qns.com/2023/03/two-men-sought-f-train-robbery/ https://qns.com/2023/03/suspects-armed-robbery-far-rockaway-cellphone-shop/

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdi1sg2 wrote

Lol again, “dark complexion.” They use light complexion yet both are still black.

This country is obsessed with race, let’s not bullshit ourselves here.

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89titanium t1_jdi42mf wrote

The description came from victim testimonies, not a few pixels from a night-time surveillance camera. Yet you say those pixels are black, ok. They simply don't use people's race in that publication, idk what to tell you. You made an assumption (that they made special rules just to not offend black people) and made a giant ass of yourself, insisting that they use racialized language. Have another, is this guy black too?: https://qns.com/2023/03/cops-searching-for-suspect-behind-armed-robbery-of-popeyes-restaurant-in-ozone-park/

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdi5ig3 wrote

You don’t have anything to tell me because they don’t seem to have any publications about any white crime. Of course they use racialized language. As I said, we all do.

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YoungMarshmellow t1_jdi6gjl wrote

You're so "fake" woke it's insane

Something things aren't that deep.

Just if you see the guy in the video call the cops. You're turning the entire post into something imaginary that you made up in your head

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdi7txl wrote

Oh please, it’s not about being “woke” in the opposite direction. It’s about being an adult. Editors and publications intentionally avoid addressing certain issues outright because of race.

A white kid shoots up a school and we need to address national gun control. Black people have been killing each other with guns in droves for the past 23 years and not a peep about gun violence.

Blacks actively targeted and killed asians during the pandemic, not a peep again. Had it been a white issue, they’d be equating modern violence to what Asians experienced in the 19th century.

There is a clear double standard.

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tondracek t1_jdioc6q wrote

Imagine looking at a pile of dead kids every few and assuming the only reason people want to reform the system is because the shooter was white.

I’m personally not flexible enough to get my own head that far up my own ass. Maybe you could throw out a referral to your gym or yogi for those of us looking for a good stretch?

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdiet0n wrote

I guarantee you’ve used radicalized language in your life as well. I mean, you post in r/Chicago. I can’t even begin to imagine what you’ve said in lol

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CHADWARDENPRODUCTION t1_jdifnly wrote

oh shit dude nice you named a subreddit they post in, guess you’re not racist anymore lol

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdifpvh wrote

What racism?

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CHADWARDENPRODUCTION t1_jdifvit wrote

you’re right, i have no idea. i’m delusional, take me to the infirmary.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdify4y wrote

What racism?

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CHADWARDENPRODUCTION t1_jdigbn0 wrote

can u stop downvoting me immediately, it’s hurting my feelings

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdigdhe wrote

What racism?

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdih6h1 wrote

So you agree in principle, you’re just making assumptions about me because I said something honest and open and it made you feel uncomfortable with how you feel about the subject matter.

Stop with the bullshit and be honest with yourself. It’s much healthier.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdiky6x wrote

So you agree with the principle in this thread but dislike that I was honest about how all Americans use radicalized language, which you admitted to doing as well, proving my point.

But decided to bring up a point I made in another thread?

I think you’re dishonest with yourself about how you feel, especially based off what you’ve said in this thread. Now address this comment you made days ago in a completely unrelated thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/10k4cay/gavin_newsom_after_monterey_park_shooting_second/j5pqbig/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

What an idiot.

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89titanium t1_jdi6nlb wrote

Yeah, no white crime. Only light-complexioned crime. Sorry, didn't mean to cut so close to that white fragility.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdi830z wrote

Show me an article written by that “publication” that clearly shows a white suspect. That should help clear up whether they address whites as whites or use “light complexion.”

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89titanium t1_jdi87sm wrote

Don't go all one-drop-rule on us now: https://qns.com/2023/03/cops-searching-for-suspect-behind-armed-robbery-of-popeyes-restaurant-in-ozone-park/ Edit, one more: https://qns.com/2023/01/two-men-sought-for-breaking-into-elmhurst-temple-stealing-donation-box-nypd/

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdidd84 wrote

I’m waiting for one with a clear white suspect. Not people covered from head to toe in black

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89titanium t1_jdiece2 wrote

You're woker than I. I assumed the guy who looks like a clone of Owen fucking Wilson to be white. You got me.

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Pbpopcorn t1_jdm3ae5 wrote

BLM is such a joke. If anything it made people more racist by making them constantly think about it. To get rid of a racist society we need to look at people beyond their race. BLM itself is a corrupt organization just out for money and doesn’t actually help POC. I’m a POC myself btw. I thought the george floyd protests were dumb at the time and still do -they didn’t solve anything at a systemic level and were hypocritical at the time when we were supposed to stay home during the pandemic

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SolitaryMarmot t1_jdirodm wrote

They absolutely do though.

"Police described the suspect as a male with a light complexion and medium build. He was last seen wearing a brown hat, black mask, multicolored jacket, and black plants."

That was what they released about the vandal who slashed all the tires at the 112th precint last month.

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SolitaryMarmot t1_jdj0tve wrote

I'm just telling you what the police bulletins to the press and public say.

OP said they wouldn't use "light complexion" but they absolutely do.

The person caught in the tire slashing incident was white though.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdirtpk wrote

Source for pics of suspect?

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iftttdummyaccount t1_jdlz3hh wrote

How do you feel now dumbass

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdm01wc wrote

Perfectly fine tbh, it still doesn’t disprove that the media ignores a lot of black hate crime and emphasizes white hate crime.

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Substantial_Bend_580 t1_jdmz5n8 wrote

It’s not large at all. Most black Americans don’t commit hate crimes. It wouldn’t make sense to blast it all over the media aside from reporting when it happened.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdmzl0l wrote

Just as most white Americans don’t commit hate crimes. Yet, let’s not pretend the narratives don’t say otherwise.

It would make sense if both blacks and whites were held to the same standard. I have seen black people do horrible things to Asian people. Most if bot all of the hate crimes committed against Asian Americans during the pandemic were done by blacks or Hispanics.

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Substantial_Bend_580 t1_jdmzz1m wrote

Black people are barley 15% of America. Most hate crimes are done by whites and it’s been like that for decades 💀 it simply wouldn’t make sense to use black criminals as the face of hate crime in America.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdn0cn0 wrote

Just because they’re a smaller percentage doesn’t mean they can’t commit an equal amount or more hate crimes…

Do you understand how statistics work?

>it simple wouldnt make sense to use black criminals (racists) as the face of hate crime in America

And there it is lol you said the quiet part out loud haha holy fuck.

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Substantial_Bend_580 t1_jdn0t51 wrote

But they don’t. There are literally sundown towns & KKK in nearly every state. Again, why would you expect hate crimes don’t by blacks to be prevalent in the media like the crimes done by whites? Most hate crimes are done by whites so idk why you’d equate not many black offenders in the media as the media ignoring it

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdn32i9 wrote

And there are black and Hispanic people in every state that attack one another over racial differences, attack themselves (Dominicans vs PR’s for instance), attack other races (Asians predominantly), etc.

In 2021, total hate crimes committed amounted to 8673 reported cases. 56.1% (4865.55) were white offenders. 21.3% (1847.34) were black offenders.

Those white offenders accounted for .002% of the 2021 white population. The black offenders accounted for .005% of the black population. Statistically, you are more likely to have a hate crime committed against you than a white person.

Black people per population commit more hate crimes than whites. Shocker…

Source

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Substantial_Bend_580 t1_jdn4v38 wrote

Does that change the fact that most hate crimes are committed by whites? Which was what we were talking in the first place? More offenders more exposure

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdn6c7x wrote

Yes, because the likelihood that a white person commits a hate crime is less than a black person. Statistics matter.

It’s like you don’t understand statistics. In this case, it’s the opposite. The greater the representation of race per hate crime = more exposure. More black people are committing hate crimes than whites via population. More offenders do not equal more exposure.

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iftttdummyaccount t1_jdofs2i wrote

Fucking idiot lol

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdoitmo wrote

Oh no… you called me names! How will that disprove my point?! 😧

Imagine having a load of shit for brains? Lol

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ShadownetZero t1_jdjbcsr wrote

I mean, he could be Latino or southeast Asian.

Doesn't seem like it, but no reason not to be factual until we know more.

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TitanicsAnInsideJob t1_jdm2m9y wrote

damn people are cooking your ass lmao

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdmce7n wrote

They got nothing to go against my point so they gotta resort to other tactics lmao

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TitanicsAnInsideJob t1_jdmci17 wrote

nah they’re really cooking you off your own point and everything lol

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdmcraj wrote

I mean, my point is standing fine lmao thats why its got 64 upvotes.

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TitanicsAnInsideJob t1_jdmczf3 wrote

they could be dominican or puerto rican so saying they’re “black” would be limiting - boom your point is squashed again

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdmdfix wrote

Nah because black is a skin color, not an ethnicity. So point stands.

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TitanicsAnInsideJob t1_jdmdouu wrote

Yeah, because when you hear “black guy” you totally think about dominicans and puerto ricans. Get real stop looking for something to be upset about

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdmgeg2 wrote

That’s your own projection. You think because you don’t think of puerto ricans and Dominicans when you hear the black descriptor doesn’t mean others don’t either.

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GeorgeMagnus t1_jdjm83p wrote

Yeah, let's forget about the antisemitism and talk about something else. Good tactic.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jdjqju9 wrote

Yea, let’s just ignore the perpetrators of the antisemitism. Wouldn’t want to be able to identify them, now, would we?

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Disco_Dreamz t1_jdk9zcb wrote

Probably because it isn’t certain from the images that he’s black ya dum dum.

If the guy is actually Indian or Latino why would they want the public looking out for a black guy?

Very stupid comment. Don’t become a cop dude.

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businesslut t1_jdi40wo wrote

He doesn't look black to me. Like the other response to you. You're obsessed with race.

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