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Vex-valkyrie t1_je49gxr wrote

Hooray, pointless renovations.

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-blourng- t1_je4bog1 wrote

I wouldn't call it pointless (given how heavily-used the station is), but we should be getting non-trivial regional rail upgrades along with station renovations for the same price tag.

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down_up__left_right t1_je577xw wrote

A big question is whether this smaller redevelopment plan also creates new dead end platforms for NJ transit that would make future through running more expensive to implement?

Now that Vornado no longer wants to redevelop the area everyone might be ready to admit that NJ transit doesn't need 6 new platforms south of the existing station. That was just an excuse to demolish the block south of the station and give it to Vornado.

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-blourng- t1_je57zpv wrote

I think 'Penn south' is considered part of the gateway project, whereas this is just an overhaul of the existing station above the tracks

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Vex-valkyrie t1_je4chwe wrote

That’s a solid rebuttal, and I agree with your station renovations suggestion 100%. There are several that are outright horrendous in both accessibility and appearance (2nd Avenue F line and Canal Street are the first two that come to mind).

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-blourng- t1_je4cxaf wrote

Too many horrible stations to count in NYC. It's like the city and MTA have collectively forgotten that filthy, disgusting dungeons aren't a normal feature of urban transit networks

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ephemeral2316 t1_je53rta wrote

What did second avenue do to you?

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Vex-valkyrie t1_je9k1p8 wrote

I don’t think it was personal but one time there was a fully formed human poop on a column near the south exit for months

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