atari_Pro t1_jbph0lm wrote on March 10, 2023 at 6:43 PM

Genuine: someone explain how congestion pricing helps the MTA money problem? Quick glance, it looks like it would solve no problems for the MTA and only (maybe) reduce traffic while also costing avg people more out of pocket. Other than the net positive of reducing emissions, which could be achieved in a 1000 other ways, congestion pricing seems to only reward the corruption within the MTA/state. Lmk if I’m crazy.

Jarreddit15 t1_jbrv8xq wrote on March 11, 2023 at 5:40 AM

That's my favorite part. It was never about the environment or reducing traffic

They're already looking to use the congestion revenue to guarantee new financing. That doesn't sound like they expect it to keep drivers off the island

TeamMisha t1_jbud0jd wrote on March 11, 2023 at 7:58 PM

> someone explain how congestion pricing helps the MTA money problem

The legislation passed by the New York State Legislature mandates that the CBD tolling (congestion pricing) raise $1 billion per year that must go to the MTA's Capital Budget. The Capital Budget is what funds projects and construction, such as this proposed extension.

> Other than the net positive of reducing emissions, which could be achieved in a 1000 other ways

I think you are vastly underestimating the solutions available. Do you believe the city has unlimited money to convert private resident's vehicles into electric vehicles to address emissions? Also, one of the two primary goals of CBD Tolling is reduce congestion, which cannot be done easily either. You need an incentive to get people to not want to drive into the city. Either you make it physically impossible or harder to drive in (which will receive complaining and bitching, of course), or you enact a real cost to reduce trips into the CBD. The multi-year long Environmental Assessment analyzing CBD tolling was based on several goals, I cannot remember the exact numbers but I think it was around a 10% to 15% reduction in vehicles and vehicle-miles-traveled (VMT) inside the CBD cordon zone, which are arguably real, quantifiable, net positives for the CBD. Hope that helps a little.