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Solid-Discussion-708 t1_jdl46nw wrote

The public will not come back to mass transit given a choice of arriving to their destination uninjured and still alive by another means of transportation. Just the same as they are now leaving NYC for somewhere else that offers them, and their families, more safety in their lives. This city has made this error in judgement before. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Gold_Scene5360 t1_jdl8jfp wrote

What the hell are you talking about. Check the traffic death statistics my dude.

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hrh_adam t1_jdlzh7d wrote

And NYC is a top 5 safe large city in the US and top 13 in the world. It can be getting worse but for a large city lifestyle there aren't a lot safer.

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ketzal7 t1_jdld1ut wrote

It’s way more dangerous and inefficient to travel by car in a city.

If you want that kind of lifestyle, there are several options in the US outside NYC.

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UpperLowerEastSide t1_jdm9uy2 wrote

Also the other cities in the US are much more likely to have higher crime rates than NYC.

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chug84 t1_jdmax8t wrote

I drive to and from work every day in NYC and I drive for a living. Before I used to drive, I relied on transit and I always saw some shit.

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Pbpopcorn t1_jdmc87o wrote

I take the express bus to work (Bronx) now. I could never go back to taking the subway daily. Way too much riff raff and non sense. And as a small Asian woman I make sure to carry pepper spray when I do take the subway because I’ve never felt completely safe taking it alone in the Bronx since 2020 after dealing with racial harassment (even got the guy arrested thankfully) Edit: Bring on the downvotes -especially from all you white privileged Manhattanites!

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ManhattanRailfan t1_jdmhclh wrote

When in 1993? Fox isn't reality.

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chug84 t1_jdmifgs wrote

Nah, mid to late 2000's. Stop making silly assumptions regarding Fox, it's getting old.

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ManhattanRailfan t1_jdn9q74 wrote

Right, so almost as invalid.

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chug84 t1_jdneq1d wrote

Considering your name just screams MTA fanboi, your response means jack shit to me too.

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ManhattanRailfan t1_jdnk190 wrote

Transit is an order of magnitude safer than driving. That's just a fact. And really, what would you know? You haven't ridden the train in 15 years.

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Parking_Goal_3301 t1_jdmc9ad wrote

That is absolutely ridiculous. I drove into Manhattan recently because it was a complex day where I needed to make multiple stops for work outside and inside the 5 boroughs and there was no realistic way to do it without the car.

It made me appreciate my normal Metro North commute so much. It’s a fantastic and sane way to travel.

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PostPostMinimalist t1_jdmiq4n wrote

You need a reality check

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-06-07/is-new-york-city-more-dangerous-than-rural-america

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Solid-Discussion-708 t1_jdmo9sv wrote

Your article is old, from 2022, and it's opinion that talks about only homicide. Crime can be more commonly about assaults, muggings, stabbings, and rapes, for example. Remember that police are literally running out the door every week. That means fewer police on the job today than the article publish date. Now look up those historical stats.

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PostPostMinimalist t1_jdmrl5m wrote

You think 2022 is “old”?

Most crime stats are down year over year (murder, robbery, rape… ). But you’ll probably say they’re fake even though they track closely with the murder rate.

And NYC is very safe per capita in those stats too, one of the lowest rates in the country.

And historical stats? Crime is way lower than it used to be. We’re around mid-2010s levels how terrifying

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Solid-Discussion-708 t1_jdmzzxy wrote

Your information isn't accurate. I don't declare anything fake. The uninformed assume as part of their argument. NYPD just released year over year as of Jan 23 stats. Overall index crime is up 1.4% and felony assault is up 14.9%. Anytime someone is actually victimized is, in fact, terrifying. Just ask the victim. That's different than keyboard declarations that are just, false.

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