Submitted by psychothumbs t3_121845f in nyc
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Gold_Scene5360 t1_jdl8jfp wrote
What the hell are you talking about. Check the traffic death statistics my dude.
ketzal7 t1_jdld1ut wrote
It’s way more dangerous and inefficient to travel by car in a city.
If you want that kind of lifestyle, there are several options in the US outside NYC.
ketzal7 t1_jdln1ap wrote
The subway needs to expand it’s lines in Queens farther East (7, F, E, J) and upzone next to those stops.
Also, real BRT with dedicated lanes should be a thing in this city already.
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hrh_adam t1_jdlzh7d wrote
And NYC is a top 5 safe large city in the US and top 13 in the world. It can be getting worse but for a large city lifestyle there aren't a lot safer.
Pbpopcorn t1_jdm6nyx wrote
It’s not just a matter of increasing service. It’s also a matter of keeping the trains and stations clean and increasing safety and accessibility. And in this post-pandemic world many people will continue wfh or hybrid schedules reducing the need to take daily public transit
UpperLowerEastSide t1_jdm9uy2 wrote
Also the other cities in the US are much more likely to have higher crime rates than NYC.
chug84 t1_jdmax8t wrote
I drive to and from work every day in NYC and I drive for a living. Before I used to drive, I relied on transit and I always saw some shit.
Pbpopcorn t1_jdmc87o wrote
I take the express bus to work (Bronx) now. I could never go back to taking the subway daily. Way too much riff raff and non sense. And as a small Asian woman I make sure to carry pepper spray when I do take the subway because I’ve never felt completely safe taking it alone in the Bronx since 2020 after dealing with racial harassment (even got the guy arrested thankfully) Edit: Bring on the downvotes -especially from all you white privileged Manhattanites!
Parking_Goal_3301 t1_jdmc9ad wrote
That is absolutely ridiculous. I drove into Manhattan recently because it was a complex day where I needed to make multiple stops for work outside and inside the 5 boroughs and there was no realistic way to do it without the car.
It made me appreciate my normal Metro North commute so much. It’s a fantastic and sane way to travel.
ManhattanRailfan t1_jdmeurs wrote
3 of the 5 boroughs are among the top 25 safest counties in the US.
cty_hntr t1_jdmh5lj wrote
NYC subways were all built to bring people to Manhattan. We need more interborough, where you don't have to go into Manhattan to get to another borough (say Brooklyn to Queens, or Bronx to Queens).
ManhattanRailfan t1_jdmhclh wrote
When in 1993? Fox isn't reality.
chug84 t1_jdmifgs wrote
Nah, mid to late 2000's. Stop making silly assumptions regarding Fox, it's getting old.
PostPostMinimalist t1_jdmiq4n wrote
TizonaBlu t1_jdmlmwx wrote
Pushing people on the tracks should be an impossibility. Additionally, people getting attacked in stations shouldn’t be a thing.
Elevate247 t1_jdmlup4 wrote
*If you build safer public transit
Pbpopcorn t1_jdmlx50 wrote
Absolutely. I was attacked on the subway in 2020 (due to racism) and I always carry pepper spray now because of it.
Solid-Discussion-708 t1_jdmo9sv wrote
Your article is old, from 2022, and it's opinion that talks about only homicide. Crime can be more commonly about assaults, muggings, stabbings, and rapes, for example. Remember that police are literally running out the door every week. That means fewer police on the job today than the article publish date. Now look up those historical stats.
CactusBoyScout t1_jdmpbh4 wrote
The bus system in general is such a missed opportunity.
The fact that it mostly follows the same routes from before WWII and the buses mostly stay within one borough is just myopic.
Every area that doesn’t have direct train service to Manhattan should have a bus service that goes straight there instead of just taking people to the nearest train. Like why shouldn’t you be able to get on a bus in Red Hook and go straight to Manhattan without transferring to a train? Or a bus straight from the Navy Yard to Manhattan? And yeah use dedicated BRT lanes at every choke point (bridges tunnels).
PostPostMinimalist t1_jdmrl5m wrote
You think 2022 is “old”?
Most crime stats are down year over year (murder, robbery, rape… ). But you’ll probably say they’re fake even though they track closely with the murder rate.
And NYC is very safe per capita in those stats too, one of the lowest rates in the country.
And historical stats? Crime is way lower than it used to be. We’re around mid-2010s levels how terrifying
Edwunclerthe3rd t1_jdmsrxw wrote
It sucks that Jamaica center was a nice logical end point, but if we can get a train into the 200s that'd be fucking amazing
Krudark t1_jdmy39x wrote
yup, if we had a queens/bronx/brooklyn line that shit would be packed
Solid-Discussion-708 t1_jdmzzxy wrote
Your information isn't accurate. I don't declare anything fake. The uninformed assume as part of their argument. NYPD just released year over year as of Jan 23 stats. Overall index crime is up 1.4% and felony assault is up 14.9%. Anytime someone is actually victimized is, in fact, terrifying. Just ask the victim. That's different than keyboard declarations that are just, false.
UpperLowerEastSide t1_jdmzzyb wrote
The MTA is currently doing a bus redesign for all 5 boroughs.. Finished the Bronx redesign and currently working on Brooklyn and Queens. Time to make your voice heard.
manormortal t1_jdn04tw wrote
Exactly, stop playing and extend the Q44 to brooklyn. Add some dedicated bus lanes where operators can hit 45-55 mphs.
Vin879 t1_jdn098o wrote
If you fix it*, they will come back: put the funds into safety, cleanliness, station maintenance, reduced transit disruptions/interruptions. We want our fares to be worth it
UpperLowerEastSide t1_jdn0pch wrote
In this post pandemic world with some people doing wfh or a hybrid schedule a big way to increase transit ridership is upzoning near both buses and subways. Especially neighborhoods like Greenwich Village that are well to do and have constructed little housing
CactusBoyScout t1_jdn1213 wrote
As long as we’re rethinking transit to LaGuardia, why shouldn’t we get a bus from Brooklyn to LGA? When you’re dealing with luggage, a single-seat ride (meaning no transfers) should be the goal.
There’s a bus that goes all the way from Bed-Stuy to JFK and it already has the AirTrain. Manhattan has the M60.
PostPostMinimalist t1_jdn1yxw wrote
Oh look it's called "moving the goalposts" with a side of cherry-picking.
You shifted to picking one area where it's up (though trending down) and stopped talking about the others (murder, rape, etc.) where it's down to a greater extent. If we're talking about transit crime (closest to the subject of this post) it's down 13% yoy.
https://compstat.nypdonline.org/2e5c3f4b-85c1-4635-83c6-22b27fe7c75c/view/89
iv2892 t1_jdn2qkv wrote
Is already safe , what they need is to have a Brooklyn-Queens-Bronx line and redo some of the bus lines and express services
ffzero58 t1_jdn2x9y wrote
Frequency and reliability is what keeps them coming back. The IBX is slowly becoming a reality, even though its just LRT but its better than nothing.
100% on BRT, they really need to seriously look into true BRT setups rather than just painting lanes. Without enforcement, people don't give a shit and will double park.
mowotlarx t1_jdn709c wrote
One thing I'll never understand is the MTAs insistence that we need to get back to where we were in 2019. Subways we're a fucking nightmare. Cars were packed, trains were insanely delayed by people packing in. I never want to go back to that. It is a terrible way to run a transit system. The goal shouldn't be sardining as many people as possible...
ManhattanRailfan t1_jdn9q74 wrote
Right, so almost as invalid.
chug84 t1_jdneq1d wrote
Considering your name just screams MTA fanboi, your response means jack shit to me too.
spk92986 t1_jdng325 wrote
Maybe in a perfect world but this is real life, in NYC no less.
iv2892 t1_jdng4qa wrote
This would be a game changer , Manhattan and to a big extent any other part of any borough, including the north shore of Staten Island , all have great access to public transit . But once you go deeper into the other boroughs is start to get a little more difficult . Is still accessible , but it takes too long to go from south Brooklyn to Astoria , the Bronx , and many other places
iv2892 t1_jdngajm wrote
Nimbys won’t like it , but a lot of these lines should be extended into the western parts of Suffolk county
iv2892 t1_jdngmaa wrote
WFH won’t go away , most downtowns in the US and in other parts of the world I assume changed .
Pbpopcorn t1_jdngsdc wrote
I know and I want to keep it that way. People who wfh should continue to do so as it’s better for the environment
TizonaBlu t1_jdnh500 wrote
It’s really sad that New Yorkers think that having no murders and robbery in the subway is not “real life”, whereas that’s the reality in almost all developed world. Kinda reminds me of the gun debate where Americans think it’s “impossible” to prevent.
ManhattanRailfan t1_jdnk190 wrote
Transit is an order of magnitude safer than driving. That's just a fact. And really, what would you know? You haven't ridden the train in 15 years.
spk92986 t1_jdnkjx6 wrote
It's not what I think, it's real life whether anyone likes it or not. You can be an idealist all you want but we don't live in a utopia and no major city is free of violent crime, certainly not this one.
TizonaBlu t1_jdnlwej wrote
Again, the Stockholm syndrome New Yorkers have that think murders and robberies in the subway is “utopia”.
Let me tell you, a single murder or robbery happening in SG, SK, JP, TW, HK, subway would be an avenger level event where the news will cover it nonstop and politicians will be forced to apologize. In NY, it’s Tuesday.
oreosfly t1_jdnp2da wrote
MTA: best we can offer is the G train
iv2892 t1_jdnqcw8 wrote
I agree 100%, is beneficial for both the employers and employees . The only people that unfortunately lose in this transactions are business owners near office areas.
iv2892 t1_jdnqi22 wrote
Or at the very least to keep it hybrid , when they can actually gather around during important meetings and projects maybe once a week
Pbpopcorn t1_jdnqqjq wrote
It’s unfortunate for those business owners but perhaps we should change the buildings in the area into affordable housing instead
TheJoseph97 t1_jdnrlu4 wrote
Funny enough cuz I’d rather live in American society than any of those southeast Asian countries you mentioned
Daurdabla t1_jdnsn6e wrote
Yet here I am, rather living in a country where I wouldn’t get murdered or robbed in the subway. Or imagine this, American society but with safe subway! But I respect your inability to dream big.
iv2892 t1_jdnsum2 wrote
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Griffin808 t1_jdnvc35 wrote
I'm sorry but expanding this shit show is not the answer. There is a signal failure on the F/E line ever other day that fucks the whole system up. I don't understand how signals work or why this seems to be a never ending problem that can't be fixed. But keep the shiny new trains and actually have a system that can run trains on a timely basis. It is ridiculous to tell the public that the system is worth it when every day there are countless things going wrong with it.
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SixGeckos t1_jdnya4k wrote
Explains a lot
SixGeckos t1_jdnycin wrote
Didn’t 6 people die on the mta in a two month span last year?
iv2892 t1_jdnyyym wrote
That was a bad period for sure and some of them were provoked altercations between two or more people . Millions ride it daily and the overall safety has improved since then . Is not 100% sure , nothing is really. But definitely one of the safe method of transportation
Airhostnyc t1_jdo58yw wrote
Then they need to raise fares instead of trying to implement other taxes on non riders
Marigig3714095 t1_jdohvor wrote
Maybe extend it to 125 street but thats a long shot
allthelittlethings t1_jdosjpc wrote
Build up Queenslink's plan to connect southeastern and northern Queens. The infrastructure is there but Adams wants to build a park there ala High Line instead...
UpperLowerEastSide t1_jdp5zy0 wrote
For bus operators to hit 45-55mph on bus lanes, they'd have to be grade separated like the Orange or Silver Line in LA. Which means for NY they'd have to be elevated. For some of the bus lines, would probably be better to convert them into els at that point.
UpperLowerEastSide t1_jdp6n0h wrote
The easiest way to do this would be to merge the B57 with the Q33 since the B57 would already be going to Jackson Heights. Then you get a one seat ride from Downtown Brooklyn to LGA.
Since the MTA is currently redesigning the Brooklyn network I'd recommend you post a comment on their Brooklyn bus redesign map since they're accepting comments now.
movingtobay2019 t1_jdpchll wrote
jae343 t1_jdpotxj wrote
They still use the centuries old signal system hence why it breaks down frequently.
DJSoggyFries t1_jdqk2sc wrote
It would be nice if my commute from the Bronx to Queens didn't take 1.5 hours each way. People living in well served areas don't understand that other areas have shitty commutes.
MasterInterface t1_jdqn5zu wrote
I wouldn't say it gets a little difficult. It gets a lot more difficult with multiple transfers. If you need to hit multiple destinations in a day that isn't along the way to each other, it becomes impossible.
concerned_newyorker t1_jdr5zid wrote
We just need flying cars at this point.
Dudebrooklyn t1_jdrmett wrote
Or Brooklyn to Brooklyn even
TeamMisha t1_jdrq41o wrote
I remember the multiple surveys the MTA launched the past 1 to 2 years felt like they were pushing you to rank safety issues and the entire focus was safety, but for me it has never changed being about service and reliability. I don't care if every station has a cop in it, what I care about is waiting 12 minutes for an N or R train, or god forbid I need to travel on the weekends and waiting up to 20 minutes.
SacredDuty t1_jdswwox wrote
please, and on the southeast side!
neutralpoliticsbot t1_jdt7zmd wrote
They did not come back when it was literally free
my5cent t1_jdtqfip wrote
Here is an idea. Majority of people take mass transit to Manhattan to work. During rush hour they should devote 3-4 lines going to Manhattan in the morning and 3 lines moving traffic out of Manhattan.
Due_Masterpiece_3601 t1_jdw2vt7 wrote
Nah fuck the bronx
Due_Masterpiece_3601 t1_jdw337u wrote
Flair "New Jersey"
JordanRulz t1_jdx7sv1 wrote
same, but for what we pay in taxes we can afford to have our cake and eat it too
pillkrush t1_je0kwi2 wrote
literally only Singapore would be considered a southeast Asian country
Pherring83 t1_je21qtt wrote
I know this is probably not #1 on the priority list but a Park Slope/Prospect Heights to Williamsburg/Bushwick type service would be well-used and potentially cut down on some of the BQE traffic.
Pherring83 t1_je21vcl wrote
Any statement from city officials/politicians that begins with "We need to get back to..." almost is never a good idea and never ends up working.
throwaway8272727s t1_je9knqr wrote
I lived in LIC and worked in park slope. Was faster to go into the city then to wait and take the G.
Solid-Discussion-708 t1_jdl46nw wrote
The public will not come back to mass transit given a choice of arriving to their destination uninjured and still alive by another means of transportation. Just the same as they are now leaving NYC for somewhere else that offers them, and their families, more safety in their lives. This city has made this error in judgement before. The more things change, the more they stay the same.