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NoodleShak t1_jc7nphk wrote
Listen I have to do something after I get out of work. What do you want from me?
simcitymayor t1_jc8ayol wrote
Do what you love, and you'll never work a day in your life.
drpvn t1_jc7uh4u wrote
They're not arguing though, just yell-talking.
woodcider t1_jc8e447 wrote
I was arguing with a stranger on the street on election night and this guy thought we were fighting and tried to break it up. We both told him “that’s how we talk” at the same time. NYC is a “we yell because we care” kind of town.
TwilitFox t1_jc7tci5 wrote
Now do every other street and make the city a nice place for everyone.
YanAndrukhov t1_jc7w1kq wrote
I want this to happen but first youd need to beef up the transit options in the city
LiterallyBismarck t1_jc8cyao wrote
... We're saying that Manhattan, specifically, needs more transit options? It's the most transit-accessible region on the continent, I don't know what more you could want if Manhattan is insufficient for you.
woodcider t1_jc8efwm wrote
Buses could run more frequently. The schedule got cut drastically on many routes some years back and never recovered.
LiterallyBismarck t1_jc8geau wrote
Sure, obviously things could be improved, but come on, it's not like it's hard to get around Manhattan without a car. This isn't a suburb of LA, it's a region with dozens of heavy rail transit lines running 24/7. If Manhattan can't support every other street being car free, literally nowhere else on the planet can.
woodcider t1_jc8grn3 wrote
I’m not arguing with you, we agree. Things can be improved. Thanks.
nychuman t1_jcdgp47 wrote
I want more crosstown busways personally (like 14th). I’d do 34th, 42nd, and 57th as the bare minimum.
And much more severe restrictions for standing in bus lanes.
captcha03 t1_jce5mxt wrote
Doesn't the M34 run on 34th crosstown?
nychuman t1_jcfclzt wrote
Yes but not on a busway. Busways are roads that are closed to ordinary traffic.
Consistent-Height-79 t1_jcwu4d4 wrote
We need a busway on 23rd. I can walk to Traders Joe’s quicker than taking a bus sometimes and it’s three stops away.
captcha03 t1_jcfp3ji wrote
Oh
YanAndrukhov t1_jc8qnvf wrote
well if youre gonna make it fully car free yes youd need to beef up transit to match whats been "lost"
omnomnomnium t1_jczovjn wrote
So, car free, and then the busses can be fast and unobstructed by traffic. sounds great, frankly.
YanAndrukhov t1_jd1m2el wrote
Id go even further and convert some bus lines to light rail
MrAronymous t1_jcthik5 wrote
> most transit-accessible region on the continent
Why you doing Mexico City dirty like that.
lakehop t1_jc819ro wrote
Pedestrian streets are really great. Especially eating outside when the weather is nice.
koreamax t1_jc86zru wrote
And pretty useless when the weather is bad
fluxural t1_jc8c94j wrote
not the case in literally any pedestrian friendly city - it's called roofs lol!
but for now, you are still correct. new york's haphazard street shacks threw up during covid certainly won't cut it - but i am sure that restaurants will invest in proper outdoor infrastructure once they have a guarantee that their street is going to be pedestrianized. unless the food is bomb as hell, people will choose the restaurant next door with outdoor heaters, enclosed seating, and properly sealed rain-proof roofs.
koreamax t1_jc8dyxz wrote
Covered open streets is a great idea!
You made a lot of really great points. My previous comment wasn't against open streets, I was just saying they aren't fun in bad weather
fluxural t1_jc8emgn wrote
yeah, it's really a bummer in shit weather. however i was recently in paris during some rain and was pleasantly surprised to see lots of folks still opting to use the outdoor seating, granted they were bundled up appropriately!
koreamax t1_jc8f238 wrote
I like sitting outside when it's a bit chilly out. I'm all for building up outdoor areas for bad weather
ketzal7 t1_jc859dx wrote
At the very least they should pedestrianize the rest of Broadway from South Ferry to 59th St
MrAronymous t1_jcthn7c wrote
Superblocks would be amazing and so much more efficient. The traffic light at every intersection thing going on in NYC is.... crazy.
TwilitFox t1_jcuoi3c wrote
It even seems potentially cost effective, since street structure probably needs to be redone anyway. But even if not, it would be nice for quality of life. Cars have WAY too much real estate. You'd think residents/pedestrians should have at least as much. Humans need some nature and clean air, which sounds obvious, but not to NYC so much.
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TheNormalAlternative t1_jc7wtow wrote
Not to nitpick, but shouldn't the title read "Madison and Herald Squares"
PoopEmoji8618 t1_jc80e6f wrote
Who says Madison square and leaves out the park
2gat123_ t1_jcapiq5 wrote
Yeah. Also they left out the square. My mental map crapped out since Madison Ave and Herald Square don’t meet.
Consistent-Height-79 t1_jcwtsdx wrote
I think the entire square is Madison Square, in which lies Madison Square Park. But yeah, everyone says Madison Square Park lest someone thinks you’re talking about MSG.
tootsie404 t1_jcb1vw4 wrote
Do 32nd st Koreatown! I keep saying that's the perfect candidate for a walking street once you get rid of the sheds. Its literally right next to the proposed Broadway and Herald Square even.
HourlyEdo t1_jcbcgjz wrote
Are those cars driving south on 6th ave in the graphic ?
Kptn_Obv5 t1_jcbx55q wrote
Glad I’m not the only one having to take a second glance to make sure I was seeing this fallacy properly.
drecklia t1_jcd6dhv wrote
Close B'way from Union Sq to Columbus Cl. Add a light rail to B'way. Coesn't have to go fast. Boom. Extra tourism.
D14DFF0B OP t1_jcd7vc0 wrote
Disagree on the light rail. There's a four track subway just below the surface. There's zero need to spend $billions on extra rail capacity on this corridor.
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D14DFF0B OP t1_jcbbdd5 wrote
The same way the rest of the world does it? Either overnight deliveries via the pedestrian space or daytime deliveries parked on a side street and carted the short block to the store.
omnomnomnium t1_jczozps wrote
A lot easier, without all the private car traffic bottling things up?
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Mak_daddy623 t1_jc841gd wrote
Exactly, 255 people died in NYC from bikes and E-bikes last year alone!
Oh no wait, sorry that was cars actually. It was the cars that killed those people.
D14DFF0B OP t1_jc8747y wrote
Drivers, but yeah.
D14DFF0B OP t1_jc87zvo wrote
This is a pretty shitty troll attempt.
The_Lone_Apple t1_jc7mz7r wrote
I hope they preserve that lovely block between 29th & 30th where people stand around yelling at each other for some reason.