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mowotlarx OP t1_jcaiac6 wrote

Reply to comment by bangbangthreehunna in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

The headline isn't misleading. The majority of people released on bail didn't have violent crime arrests and didn't reoffend. Which is the entire point.

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PandaJ108 t1_jcajfcc wrote

That’s great and yet offenders in the category most new yorkers care about (violent offenders) saw there rearrest rates increase after being released.

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matzoh_ball t1_jcasncz wrote

I guess the headline tried to address the a very common criticism of bail reform, which is that it increased crime in NYC overall. Few critics make the distinction between different offender cohorts.

Also, the article itself does point out that there were re-arrest increases for certain cohorts.

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robxburninator t1_jcalmc7 wrote

I would hope you would care about everyone that gets arrested because you have basic empathy and believe incarceration without a right to a speedy trial seems mighty.... amoral.

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bangbangthreehunna t1_jcalp76 wrote

If the content of the article contradicts the headline, its misleading.

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mowotlarx OP t1_jcamhex wrote

It doesn't contradict the headline. They took data of all releases during ball reform and recidivism went down. Again, sorry that isn't what you wanted to hear but the numbers are the numbers.

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bangbangthreehunna t1_jcap0uc wrote

Overall, but the quote I provided is pretty telling. Violent crimes are more impactful than non violent crimes.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_jcatg79 wrote

It’s not only misleading, it’s extremely disingenuous to pretend that a reoffense on a petty theft is the same as a reoffense on a felony violence crime.

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redroverster t1_jcbq73d wrote

Let me ask you this, if the total population is 500 people and 400 people with misdemeanor cases, and none of the 400 got re-arrested compared post reform to 200 re-arrests pre bail reform. Then the remaining 100 people had violent felony cases, and bail reform caused the re arrest number to go from 50 to 75, that’s an overall decrease (250 to 75), but are we better off?

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sayheykid24 t1_jcb5wac wrote

As a characterization of what the study found it is misleading because it’s a cherry picked metric

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