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sctp1999 t1_jcbqfof wrote

Reply to comment by matzoh_ball in Study shows those released under NY's bail reform laws are less likely to get rearrested by mowotlarx

so in laymans term this study is bullshit and the high crime we've been experiencing could very well be a few people committing crimes over and over and just getting released back on the streets?

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matzoh_ball t1_jcbt492 wrote

If they commit crime after crime then they'd eventually be convicted and put in jail or prison. If they aren't convicted or only given super light sentences, then that has nothing to do with bail reform. Also, most people who *are* detained pretrial are only in jail for a few days since they generally make bail pretty quickly, meaning that they could reoffend almost immediately even if the judge sets bail. So the idea that the lack of pretrial detention creates all these repeat offenders is bogus.

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sctp1999 t1_jcbv5hc wrote

>BUT, importantly, if a defendant is rearrested 100x, it still only counts as 1 arrest.

he said "BUT, importantly, if a defendant is rearrested 100x, it still only counts as 1 arrest."

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matzoh_ball t1_jcbvlg3 wrote

Yes, that's *technically* true. But if someone is arrested 100 times and never gets a jail or prison sentence and thus is out in the community again to reoffend, then you have to blame something other than bail reform for that.

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sctp1999 t1_jcbwgqo wrote

So if someone commits petit larceny get arrested and then let back on the street "because of bail reform" to commit it100x more then we have to blame something other than bail reform for that. Got it.

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matzoh_ball t1_jcc5pjc wrote

If you're convicted for petit larceny your sentence is up to 1 year in jail. So if someone is released pretrial and he gets re-arrested for petit larceny, judges can still sentence that person to jail time.

Also, since the bail reform amendments that took effect in July 2020, judges can set bail on cases involving harm to person or property if the person has a pending case that also involves harm to a person or property. So if someone is arrested for petit larceny and released without bail, and then they get re-arrested for another petit larceny charge, the judge is allowed to set bail.

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