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ManhattanRailfan t1_jcf93ss wrote

Reply to comment by NetQuarterLatte in NY lawmakers say they won't support MTA's planned fare hike for commuters by King-of-New-York

I mean, I'm fine with that last one. Nobody in this city should really be driving.

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ForeignWin9265 t1_jcfj25b wrote

Bro you clearly never been to some neighborhoods in the outer boroughs and it shows

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ManhattanRailfan t1_jcfkx7q wrote

The only reason people need to drive in those neighborhoods is because everyone drives in those neighborhoods. It's a catch-22. The buses are unreliable and slow and biking is unsafe because of all the cars and everyone drives because the buses are slow and unreliable and biking is unsafe.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jcfx5aj wrote

Biking is actually safer the further you get away from Manhattan. The streets are wider and the rare trucks that do show up, stick to the main avenues and boulevards where the businesses are.

Funny thing is those businesses usually have parking lots where the trucks can park away from the street to offload.

The buses are unreliable because the nearest subway station isn’t close by. The bus stops every other block to pickup/drop off passengers. You might have to take a bus in the opposite direction of where you need to go, because that’s how the city planned the routes.

If you drive in these areas you know buses don’t give a fuck about cars, they don’t have a problem cutting you off as they pull away from the curb.

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akmalhot t1_jcfa6v2 wrote

People who live inside the city shoodk not be allowed to drive anywhere outside the city ?

People should not be driving INTO the city . People who live in Manhattan do not drive around the city , it's not worth the hassle outside of a few random outer borough trips not serves well by public transport if that's a thing.

Every single congestion zone in the world offers variance for people who live inside the zone. I'm going home, I have a right to not pay absurd fees to go home , certainly should.nit be the same fee as a jabroni driving into the city to go to dinner for fun

All you anti car lunatics are too much it's X or Y when nothing In life is.lkke that

That's why all our policy sucks and doesn't work.

Doesn't even have to be a permanent variance, could be you get 2 trips a month

But no one would even agree with that, because your goal isn't congestion reduction, being reasonable or anything of the sort, its just purely to punish others, punish cars, and/or punish someone who has something you don't .

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NetQuarterLatte t1_jcfbc8m wrote

I say that as someone who lives in Manhattan, uses mass transit everywhere and loves walking and biking.

But even I still rely on cars once in a while, and I know that a lot of hard-working people that I care in my life depends on cars a lot more than I do.

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