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ChrisFromLongIsland t1_je5qtwv wrote

Add this to the list of reasons I will never ever lease out my apartment. I give someone a 1 year lease because I don't need the space for a year. Now I have to make sure that if I want it back for my own personal use woops I now have a tenant for life. At the very least I have to hire a lawyer goto housing court and prove my reason is OK.

Once this law passes the next thing will of course be back door rent control. The legislature will invent some reason at some point to make a hard cap. Whether it be fairness, the market rates are unaffordable who knows but once they have a soft cap it will be a hard cap soon enough. I would bet a lot of money on that.

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IronyAndWhine t1_je5sdvk wrote

Your objection is 100% premised on a misunderstanding of the bill, which is why I made this post.

People renting out their properties would still be able to deny lease renewals if they wanted to do something other than host a tenant — such as occupy the unit themselves, or have a family member move in.

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KaiDaiz t1_je5wrkw wrote

Maybe you not reading either

> At the very least I have to hire a lawyer goto housing court and prove my reason is OK.

Its more hoops to jump to reclaim property after previously agreed upon lengths. You think OP goes to tenants I want to reclaim for own use and they going to 100% agree on the spot or wait it out after they get a court order ordering them? Or tenant request a payout to move or wait till court order from your legal property?

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IronyAndWhine t1_je625l1 wrote

Look stop responding to me in this thread mate. As I've said a couple times, I'm not interested in talking with a landlord about this; just trying to inform tenants.

I know you're against the bill, but I'm not going to change your mind because you wish to maintain the interests of the land-owning class; and you're not going to change mine because I want to advance those of working people.

This is a class issue and you're on the other side of the fence.

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KaiDaiz t1_je62knn wrote

yawn....I was a tenant longer than a LL. Also I merely pointing out the absurdity how this bill violates the original contract and the unforeseen consequences that will happen when bill pass. There will be losers but sure some LLs but especially future tenants.

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IronyAndWhine t1_je63sf2 wrote

This bill does not "violate the original contract" like it's some eternal binding entity imbued with divine power; it modifies the nature of the legal obligations under landlord-tenants contracts.

If Good Cause were so bad for tenants like you claim, then why are all grassroots tenant's rights organizations/ tenant associations supportive of the bill and all landlord lobbying organizations opposed to it?

This can't be any clearer, and gaslighting tenants from the perspective of being an owner into advocating against their interests is quite the disgusting tactic mate.

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KaiDaiz t1_je64zsc wrote

>This bill does not "violate the original contract"

Did the original contract had a end date? yes or no. does this bill change that and force one party to perpetually renew if requested and eligible? yes so a change in original contract.

> If Good Cause were so bad for tenants like you claim

bc they view it in the short term and can't see long term. Evebn you cant see it right now

Just like tenant advocates say the 2019 rent reforms were good and ignore the predictions of others that it will simply lead to more vacant units bc the renos wont support the legal rent. Tenant advocates at the time say it wont happen nor huge impact. Guess what it did occur. Where's those tenant advocate that deny this?

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IronyAndWhine t1_je6588e wrote

Odd thing to do to spend your time on Reddit advocating for those with economic power to maintain it, but that's what Landlords do with all their time not working I guess.

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KaiDaiz t1_je67r02 wrote

I have plenty of free time during day job. Currently compiling. Feel free to ignore my predictions of what will happen. Just like in 2019

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ChrisFromLongIsland t1_je7ak7y wrote

The best point is to look at all predictions for the 2018 law. Many of them came true. Landlords are pulling units off the market because they can't afford to renovate. Small landlords are getting crushed and are starting to lose their houses.

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