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jjd13001 t1_je2hjwx wrote

I mean if someone does not give a fuck enough to openly smoke on the train then good luck dealing with them, I have a feeling if you confront them you’ll end up with a black eye or worse

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eeeeemilli t1_je2mot2 wrote

Exact same way I think about the people blasting music at a level 20 for all the train to enjoy. Just not worth it.

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kiratnyc t1_je2ff0x wrote

More than once I’ve seen people smoking crack on the train.

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Double-Ad4986 t1_je2hu5f wrote

you never forget your first time smelling crack

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StevenAssantisFoot t1_je2ioue wrote

Before the pandemic I used to see it like 2-3 times a year, maybe. Ever since covid started I see it at least once or twice a month. Crackheads are taking over.

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programmer8 t1_je2mq0j wrote

Heroin addicts too. Saw them shooting up broad daylight at bryant square entrance

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johnnybluejeans t1_je2nahw wrote

I just had to walk around a guy shooting up on the stairs to the C platform at 34th at 5:30pm.

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Celestiicaa t1_je2n8b9 wrote

Walked onto the 4 train before 9pm the other night and there was a group of guys just full-on shooting up in the car :/

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shit_knife t1_je2g2zs wrote

Low life’s are going to low life.

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ThePinga t1_je2ivqt wrote

Conductors gotta keep the train moving I don’t blame them tbh

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boimilk t1_je2fegn wrote

I ask people politely if they would mind putting out their cigarettes - I know there's a slight chance I could get stabbed but just asking nicely shouldn't be enough to tip the scales (or I hope so). It's worked out every time so far...

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2g50r wrote

Yeah no chance this dude was easily 6’ 3" 250 lbs I’m a skinnyboi

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boimilk t1_je2gb3r wrote

I mean I'm 5'10 180, never really factored into that before

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2gin9 wrote

Well sir go ahead and claim your steel balls award, you have more courage than the people in this thread who pretend this isn’t an issue

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programmer8 t1_je2mus1 wrote

Its not worth it man. Dont be a hero. Cops wont save you.

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boimilk t1_je2nbyl wrote

Thanks but I've lived in the city for over 15 years, I'm not gonna take my advice from some reddit dude named programmer8

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AltaBirdNerd t1_je2nz9k wrote

So you want the conductor to sacrifice themselves?

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2obid wrote

RIP MTA conductor

Cause of death: alerting dispatch

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[deleted] t1_je2eehw wrote

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k1lk1 t1_je2fs3g wrote

That's fine, call the NYPD then.

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-OjO t1_je2j4j5 wrote

“Your call is very important to us, please continue to hold”

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FarttyBarty t1_je2hr0i wrote

Also, not our job.

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ShadownetZero t1_je2ilkg wrote

Literally your job.

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FarttyBarty t1_je2itch wrote

Nope, thats nypd transit division’s job. If an MTA employee wants to pass the message along then they can, but they are not obligated too.

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Melodic-Upstairs7584 t1_je2kvlg wrote

This is actually good info. I had no idea MTA employees weren’t required to contact the police to assist a distressed passenger. Absolutely needs to be changed.

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ShadownetZero t1_je2j2vj wrote

You might want to re-read your employee handbook.

>literally your job

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2eiuv wrote

I guess every other time the MTA got the police involved in a situation they used smoke signals

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Loubsandboobs t1_je2kndh wrote

I’m pregnant and its infuriating having people smoke next to me on the train

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thisisntmineIfoundit t1_je2gi3k wrote

This is one of those issues where I say we all band together and go full Karen as a community. It is so against the norms we've all agreed upon to live in this crowded city together we just cannot keep sliding downwards like this. I've been here 11 years and 100% of the "smoking a cig or other substance in a train car" incidents I've witnessed have all occurred within the last year and a half or so.

Say something in person if you deem it safe to do so (big judgement call here, do your best) or alert the conductor.

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Treehaus_user t1_je2fxrx wrote

The MTA are not law enforcement. You report crimes to law enforcement. Sadly LE is non existent. But don't blame the MTA. The NYPD transit division - yes blame them. If someone walked into your office and was smiking are your going to arrest them? Oh becuase you would call security, who would call the NYPD. Think things through smooth brain.

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froggythefish t1_je2ll4b wrote

There should be a smoking car on every train. It would not only save people from dealing with smokers in other cars, but would also provide addicts a cheap and safer way to get their drugs. You enter the car and the oxygen itself is replaced with nicotine, tobacco, cannabis, crack cocaine, etc.

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I_Cut_Shoes t1_je2o2w8 wrote

They probably don't even want to be around each other

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jae343 t1_je2fxco wrote

Most people that smoke on the train are doing joints or vaping, haven't experienced a cig smoker.

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SmurfsNeverDie t1_je2i475 wrote

Ive experienced numerous cig smokers at this point. Its horrible.

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bas t1_je2mqkp wrote

Ditto. A few times. Weed I mind less

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iStealyournewspapers t1_je2szre wrote

I’ve had one or two on the actual train, and countless times on platforms underground over the years. It’s been worse lately though.

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2g2w3 wrote

‘Twas a joint

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jae343 t1_je2guea wrote

if they aren't hotboxing the place and lighting it up right next to me, im fine with it. Certainly is rude af but at that rate just get off because popo ain't there to deal with it

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2hbdc wrote

It’s a closed space lol it hotboxes by default

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jae343 t1_je2nemm wrote

The HVAC of the train car has constant air changes, more frequent after COVID so technically not. Now if the HVAC was broken especially in the summer okay, then we have problem.

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pythonQu t1_je2dlvm wrote

And.....this is reason 854 why I'm glad not to be taking the train.

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blazintrailz7 t1_je2hg3m wrote

As someone coming from a city with no public transit at all, I could care less if people smoke on the train… I do know it’s an issue though

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persianbluex t1_je2keo3 wrote

Yea well over here we're supposed to be a civilized society. You can't just do what you want

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blazintrailz7 t1_je2tyzb wrote

I mean I getcha but I doubt you’re having this energy with people hitting e-cigs on the train. Don’t try to say it’s vapor either lol. Unless you’re complaining about every young person ripping E-Cigs on the train, you shouldn’t be complaining about this. Vapor literally irritates my throat more then weed also

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iStealyournewspapers t1_je2t2g5 wrote

couldn’t care less*

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blazintrailz7 t1_je2tacz wrote

Sorry didn’t realize I was writing an essay that would be peer reviewed 🤣🤣

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iStealyournewspapers t1_je2tsz6 wrote

It’s more just like it’s obvious you’re going through life thoughtlessly misusing the phrase, as so many people do, and maybe from this point on you’ll actually register what the correct use of the phrase is communicating 🤓

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ShadownetZero t1_je2ifmv wrote

We need a way to report this via text/app in a way that gets a cop to come check at a later stop.

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FoxInternational9322 t1_je2iu05 wrote

We’ve been livin in the wild west for a couple years now i doubt the police even care — mta cops maybe

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Jets1026 t1_je2p4ce wrote

conductors don't get paid to deal with that and they're not trying to get assaulted. It's the cops job

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theofficialreality t1_je2ey5b wrote

Maybe I misread this somewhere but if someone is smoking fentanyl, you are too.

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Disused_Yeti t1_je2h2fd wrote

10 cops took medical leave from fentanyl exposure just reading that comment

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k1lk1 t1_je2fx90 wrote

Actually various depts of public health (not sure about NY) have said that 2nd hand fentanyl smoke poses no risks. Which is pretty weird given how second hand cigarette smoke is literally instadeath poison. But hey fenty addicts are a protected class now so I get it.

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lickedTators t1_je2gz0z wrote

Burning wood is different from burning cigarettes too. Different chemicals act differently once burned.

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k1lk1 t1_je2jbdx wrote

Also street fenty is famously pure and clean burning, I forgot to add that

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Disused_Yeti t1_je2oqur wrote

But cigarette smoke is tar and other chemicals as opposed to the nicotine that is what you’re smoking them for

Fentanyl smoke may not have the active chemical that fucks you up in the short term but it still probably has things that’ll give you cancer if you live that long to develop it

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Megaloptetron t1_je2jji1 wrote

I saw a guy huffing duster on the train, he comes into the car, sits down and you just hear the can going, he's got it right up on his face. I prefer that to the smoking.

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Sapphire_Bombay t1_je2onrf wrote

The normal human side of me agrees with you 100%. And the New Yorker side of me is like hey at least it's not crack.

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TheNormalAlternative t1_je2eibi wrote

Did you try simply moving to the next car?

Edit: responding to u/ShadownetZero who responded and immediately blocked me like a child

Moving to the next car is literally the most useful thing you can do for yourself. You don't have to interact with the smoker, and therefore avoid getting into a physical altercation. You also remove yourself from an unhealthy and uncomfortable environment.

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lucyisnotcool t1_je2jbl6 wrote

I got on a 6 train last week, last car. Some asshole was sitting up one end smoking, the car reeked. So I "simply moved to the next car", as you so helpfully suggest. Whereupon I discovered another asshole, in that car, also smoking. And then again! Three fucking cars in a row, all with a dude smoking and stinking up the place. It's absolutely ridiculous.

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2em2f wrote

Oh my god. Someone alert the Nobel committee. I think you’re on to something.

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Particular-Wedding t1_je2ghx3 wrote

The MTA employee who told you no doesn't seem to understand that THEY too will be inhaling that smoke b/c it is all recycled air. There are a lot of junkies on the trains who will smoke far more than weed - I have seen people light up crude pipes made out of a bic pen. It smells like a combination of burning plastic and a strong industrial chemical odor. My guess is that is not weed but something far harsher like meth or fentanyl.

Edit - in fact, the MTA employees will actually be in a far worse position than the commuters long term b/c we at least have a destination to get off while they are inside the same train for hours at a time while the recycled air from different passengers is turned over and over again.

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notacrook t1_je2njno wrote

Are you familiar with how trains work? It’s not an airplane.

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knockatize t1_je2gslt wrote

MTA unions have to get on this, on behalf of their own members. The unions can get up in the face of the suits and politicos and ask why they have chosen to tolerate this.

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2gw1z wrote

MTA board is unfortunately unaccountable. It’s just a board of directors appointed by a ton of people

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knockatize t1_je5a33n wrote

Not the board. The legislature. The governor, especially. Kathy needs to squirm a bit.

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ryesan58 t1_je2hesh wrote

They have to focus on the people jumping fair .. who cares if someone smokes sleeps are robs in the train.

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wakeuPKin t1_je2m956 wrote

This post right here... I've been looking for someone to say something about this cos I thought no way am i the only one who gets irritated by this behaviour. I myself hav happened to ask that a smoker stop from the act or ended up swapping cars. I had a conversation about this with a girl I dated and she was like it's pretty unsafe to ask they put out the blunt rather than switching cars. An unbelievable situation I had been through was when some guy at the far end was blowing blunt and I happened to stand by the door, initially wondering why the stench was so strong then figured it was coming from him. I had started at him for a hot 10sec with the intent of asking he put out the blunt, then changed my mind and said fuck it, the city itself don't give a fuck when the made it legal so who am i? But to my suprise, this guy called on me and would apologize while putting out the blunt. It was unexpected. But I happened to thank him for understanding. Hoping he realise it's wrong and wont keep on with it.

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BasedAlliance935 t1_je2mbh5 wrote

I was once on a wakefield bound 2 train and as i was walking through the train i saw someone openly with pot

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stansvan t1_je2n2u1 wrote

City is going to shit.

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poopmast t1_je2o5or wrote

I've been seeing people smoking stinky cigars on the trains and platforms.

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bakingwhilebaking t1_je2oiia wrote

I now live in Denver and here people chong out the cars with fentanyl/meth smoke…. I miss the MTA :(

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2os79 wrote

Man, no funny shit. A friend of mine is vacationing in Portland and she is stunned by the amount of homeless encampments on the streets and the needles everywhere. At least encampments aren't that big of an issue in NYC compared to most cities, since the subway basically acts as an encampment. Which is depressing to say, but our homeless situation actually is not that bad compared to the average city, especially considering our population.

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bakingwhilebaking t1_je2q7kt wrote

It’s so bad here. I want to be compassionate and I don’t give a shit if someone smells bad or takes up a bunch of space with all their stuff, but the open drug use really pisses me off. I swear I’ve gotten secondhand high several times and the people even freebase with kids on the train. There is no fare* enforcement in Denver though and I think that’s a huge reason for it. I had to stop riding the train cos I’m pregnant and the junkies started recognizing me at my workplace(I scream at them every time)

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theverybestintown t1_je2q3ft wrote

Good, keep it coming. Hopefully it drives down prices, I'm trying to buy an apartment soon.

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randomturtle333 t1_je2i0j3 wrote

bigger fish to fry. either grow a pair and ask them to stop or move train cars it’s pretty simple

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YoCreoPollo t1_je2jnkp wrote

It's not THAT simple.

Asking these lunatics to stop is rising escalation. Most decent individuals know better than to light up a joint in a closed public space. I like the ppl who have the decency to go between train cars.

Moving to another car is a better choice, imo but you risk losing a seat and comfort of an emptier train. There have been many times when I moved to get away from Marijuana or loud music and end up having to stand for my trip instead. Sometimes, I'd have to suck it up and deal with the smoke if I had a ton of bags from grocery song and a decent seat.

All crime on the subway system needs to be dealt with if they really want decent, fare-paying people to ride the subway. The ones with a choice, at least. I used to love taking the subway til about 2018. Luckily, I don't depend on it.

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hulks_brother t1_je2k9fp wrote

I grew up when smoking was allowed everywhere. As a result, I am able to handle smoke just about anywhere. Try sitting in a car with three adults smoking with the windows up.

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[deleted] t1_je2na5c wrote

It's weird, I have seen it twice in 2 days: yesterday and today.

What's up with that?

Is this a new trend?

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ECK-2188 t1_je2flz6 wrote

Welcome to NYC.

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queensnyatty t1_je2cyx9 wrote

This is what happens when you elect pro crime politicians.

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2d9lm wrote

Oh wow I had no idea MTA conductors were under the jurisdiction of the district attorneys office

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BKEDDIE82 t1_je2du74 wrote

MTA conductors aren't going to risk being attacked. They aren't cops, and you shouldn't expect them to be.

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2dwyl wrote

MTA conductors can contact the police???! Wow a novel concept!

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BKEDDIE82 t1_je2e87u wrote

Yes, they can. So can anyone on the train. But now you assume that they will show up. Or bother for something that won't result in any meaningful charges.

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2ecr4 wrote

What an exhausting way to say, in total, nothing lol

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Topher1999 OP t1_je2e4e5 wrote

You heard him folks. He’s been seeing those politicians with ads where they say “actually, crime is underrated!” Are those same politicians in the room with us now?

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