d0ggyd0g t1_jczjs7z wrote
Serious question, part of the problem is how unattractive the job is salary wise, why doesn’t the government raise it?
For example, a city like Seattle police has a pay salary of $109k; while NYPD is at $85k, NYC definitely makes way more money than Seattle but can’t offer the same? Why is that? If the NYPD was hiring for $109k I can definitely see people applying, minus before forced for crazy amounts of overtime their entire career.
team_suba t1_jczrbxv wrote
The problem really isn’t salary, well top salary at least. Any cop will tell you that once you reach top pay you are going to be well over 6 figures even with minimal overtime. All city agencies make their money in overtime, it’s no secret. So how much you make as a cop is entirely up to you. But even bare minimum will be over 100.
The problem is eating shit for 5 years until you get to top pay. And the raise increments are very back loaded so you really don’t start seeing anything meaningful until year 4. And there’s a huge percentage that don’t even make it that point for a bunch of different reasons. That’s why when you look at average salary it’s so low. But if you look at someone who’s been in nypd for let’s say 7-10 years (go ahead out there name in on seethroughny.com and test if you’d like) their salary will be over 125k guaranteed.
Regardless, salary is not the reason why the nypd is an unattractive job. Just look at how people treat and feel towards police. You can join any other city agency, make just as much, work less/ not as hard, and not be hated by your community.
bangbangthreehunna t1_jd04axe wrote
I would say salary is #1 factor. Guys would easily do that job if it was close to par with other Pd jobs.
Available_Survey8834 t1_jd288yk wrote
I heard about metro north conductors making over 250k with overtime . Anyone can confirm it ?
Crimsonwolf1445 t1_jd2oyap wrote
City doesnt want to pay us more a a sizeable chunk of the city and especially this sub HATE the idea of civil servants making decent incomes
Grass8989 t1_jczkhfw wrote
That would make sense, but progressives would have a fit, so instead we force the current cops to work inhumane amounts of overtime and start them at $42k in the most expensive city in the country.
_neutral_person t1_jcztdhd wrote
The low starting salaries were fought for by the union veterans at the expense of the younger POs. Maybe this was a gamble to slow recruitment, create a shortage, and then demand raises on the lower end while retaining salaries for higher ranked officers.
Maybe it's time to cut salaries at the top and give it to the officers at the bottom.
Grass8989 t1_jczyqvu wrote
Yeah, cut from the officers making top pay of 85K to give to someone making 42K, sounds reasonable.
Crimsonwolf1445 t1_jd2p7y1 wrote
No it was the result of negotiations with the city.
The city wanted low starting salaries in exchange for any raises.
The pba wasnt out here protesting for 42k salaries
markyymark13 t1_jcztlgk wrote
A majority of cops here in Seattle are making well over $100K. The city has done everything from hiring bonuses to paying them crazy salaries to the point that many police officers here some of the highest paid public employees.
And despite all that, we're still really short of police officers. So maybe pay isn't the end-all-be-all solution many think it is. Have you considered the idea that people simply don't want to be a cop? At least not in its current form?
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