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ObjectivePitiful1170 t1_jd2uvyt wrote

Reply to comment by 1600hazenstreet in In 2019 nyc voted to use congestion pricing to reduce carbon emissions. Three years it’s not implemented but at least the case study required by the National Environmental Protection Act is done…. 4007 pages. by tickleMyBigPoop

Are you saying that EVs don't cause congestion?

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1600hazenstreet t1_jd2x1aj wrote

No, EVs do not produce carbon emissions from driving.

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shant_jan t1_jd2y067 wrote

wait till you find out that it's not just the tail pipes that are fucking up our air

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jd31u9v wrote

You’re referring to the brake dust (metal and rubber) produced by buses and subway cars, correct?

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ObjectivePitiful1170 t1_jd35uc1 wrote

That too, but when you consider the utility and the fact that the footprint is being split between many users, they look much better than private cars.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jd382eh wrote

Currently yes, but what happens when everyone abandons personal cars and become dependent on public transportation, ride-shares and deliveries?

Because people will still need to do the things they did when owning a car.

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ObjectivePitiful1170 t1_jd3c8uh wrote

Some do, and they will benefit from lower congestion. For overwhelming majority of people who drive to Manhattan it is completely unnecessary to drive. Asking drivers to cover their own costs instead of asking the residents to burden themselves is reasonable and ethical. The goal is not to eliminate private cars. They are not closing the bridges.

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Edwunclerthe3rd t1_jd3maai wrote

Deliveries group multiple orders which makes them more efficient than 1 person in a car going to pick up their order * how ever many people get deliveries. Public transportation is also more efficient, so less pollution. Ride shares are trickier, but a fleet of Ubers could theoretically be optimized to deliver a more efficient trip than personal car rides

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HEIMDVLLR t1_jd3mvr4 wrote

You’re basing this off of the current situation.

I’m talking about when everyone stops driving and begins relying on mass transportation, deliveries and ride-shares to get things done.

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Edwunclerthe3rd t1_jd3qo2h wrote

Right. The benefits we gain from switching to public transportation scale as the adoption rate increases.

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OhGoodOhMan t1_jd3z2q4 wrote

As the article nicely spells out in the headline, it's tire particles, which EVs create more of due to their better acceleration and higher weight.

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D14DFF0B t1_jd54ydl wrote

Brakes too.

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Edwunclerthe3rd t1_jd73bdh wrote

Brakes are consumed at a lower rate compared to ICE cars of a similar weight( Evs are usually heavier) because of regenerative braking

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