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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_itm5xpa wrote

Why the fuck is no one going to jail?

What's the deterrent here? Make every effort to defraud tax payers and if you're caught you have to give some of the money back???

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Arleare13 t1_itmblzb wrote

It was a plea deal, basically. According to the article and the court papers, they agreed to a deferred prosecution agreement in exchange for admitting wrongdoing, paying back restitution to the government, and paying $8 million in fines. So they didn't give "some" of the money back, they gave back everything that the government intended to prove they stole, plus a fine of over twice that amount. They also agreed to oversight by a federal monitor going forward, which isn't a minor concession.

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QCr8onQ t1_ito583o wrote

I understand what you are saying and I understand why the government agreed to it but… I’d still like to see some jail time. I’d also like to see the mill/school shut down.

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Arleare13 t1_ito5mel wrote

One person did get prison time, and another got five years probation.

But yeah, I think we all agree there needs to be much more effective oversight of these places if they’re to continue to operate.

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PlaneStill6 t1_ito00jl wrote

> paying back restitution

I bet they’re milking Mayor McCop for $8mm in city funding, and they’ll get it.

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Arleare13 t1_itmioi0 wrote

> How are we expected to believe they will pay any restitution.

They have already paid their restitution. It says that in the third paragraph of the article you didn't read.

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66Hanuman99 t1_itndiot wrote

"In all, the school agreed to pay $5 million in fines in addition to the more than $3 million it had already paid in restitution as part of the deal to avoid prosecution."

So, they are just returning 8 million in stolen taxpayer money! and being given a slap on the wrist (again). Yeah there have been many other cases of this from these talmudic schools in the past.

well, this all makes complete sense to me... Merika ~

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JerryFartcia t1_itnhyhu wrote

Literally the same thing would happen to you if you lie on your taxes.

You pay it back with penalties.

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elizabeth-cooper t1_itmkd6s wrote

> They are fully funded by the government

They are not. You can see below where I wrote what they get funding for. The major expenses of a school are salaries and the school building itself.

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nonlawyer t1_itme8sj wrote

> Why the fuck is no one going to jail?

> The federal investigation into the school’s use of government funding stemmed from a more narrow criminal case in which two former school leaders, Elozer Porges and Joel Lowy, pleaded guilty in March 2018 for their roles in the conspiracy to defraud the government.

r/nyc commenter Read the Article Before Getting Outraged Challenge [Impossible]

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PvtHudson t1_itmsdmm wrote

To be fair, the article is behind a paywall.

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zephyrtr t1_itn0ia2 wrote

We didn't value knowledge, and so we knew nothing.

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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_itmu886 wrote

r/nyc commenter Read the Article Before Getting Outraged by other comments. [Impossible]

Username checks out.

Otherwise you would have recognized that nothing is mentioned about anyone going to jail. Nor was there any speculation as to what potential jail time they would be looking at.

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Arleare13 t1_itmunmr wrote

It's not difficult to find that information, though. One of them was sentenced to two years in prison, the other got five years probation.

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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_itn6l9a wrote

It wasn't in the article, so sue me.

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Arleare13 t1_itn9dc0 wrote

That sounds like a bit much. Politely correcting you seems sufficient.

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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_itnarqw wrote

Correcting what? That prison sentences were not published in the article?

I'm not a mind reader, it's pretty simple. Just move on with your life.

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TK1129 t1_itn0blb wrote

It’s more organized crime than religion. The Feds should start dropping RICO charges on them

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senseofphysics t1_itoxj5n wrote

RICO is what decimated the Italian mob in New York. If they do that to the Hasidic community it’ll do the same, but I wonder if they’ll even try to.

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hwnn1 t1_itovyga wrote

It’s white collar crime. People never go to jail unless they fuck someone over more powerful than them or someone from opposing party is the AG.

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