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jm14ed t1_irbfgzi wrote

Reply to comment by King-of-New-York in 20% of Congestion Pricing Tolls to be Legislated to Suburban Railroad Systems by King-of-New-York

Considering the commuter rails have 10% of the ridership of the subway, I fail to see the issue you are trying to make here.

These people do count and I think 20% is reasonable to get the political buy in needed to do this.

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King-of-New-York OP t1_irbg54c wrote

From my perspective as a daily commuter the LIRR seems to be in “good” shape compared to the national embarrassment that is our subway system.

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actualtext t1_ircmyy0 wrote

National embarrassment that is our subway system? No other US city has a subway system that comes close to our size our’s. The closest is Chicago and we’re about four times bigger when you compare miles of tracks and stations. What are you even talking about? Our public transit ain’t perfect but it’s much better than anything else in this country for what it does and covers.

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King-of-New-York OP t1_irdwlu5 wrote

Are you not embarrassed by the filth, disrepair, and general dysfunction of our subway system?

Is it not an embarrassment for the new-ish 7 line extension lacking a much needed 10th Ave station?

Is it not an embarrassment for the huge Broadway Junction complex to still lack a single elevator? ADA is a joke in this city.

Is it not an embarrassment that the MTA is incapable of replacing a single tile that fell off the wall decades ago?

Is it not an embarrassment that huge swaths of Queens and Brooklyn are bereft of subway service? No plans for extensions.

Is it not an embarrassment that Mayor Adams wants the disused (not abandoned) Rockaway Beach branch for a linear highline park instead of a desperately needed north south subway line?

Considering Brooklyn and Queens, is it not an embarrassment that no part of the IND Second System has been seriously proposed for construction? SAS in its current form is not it.

Is it not an embarrassment that the SAS is being built without provisions for express tracks to be tunneled in the far future? If the MTA can’t afford to build the line correctly, then the SAS shouldn’t be built at all.

Is it not an embarrassment that the money hungry MTA uses lost revenue as an excuse to not provide, as permanent, what proved to be a very popular free transfer between the J/M and G trains at Broadway and Lorimer?

Is it not an embarrassment that the MTA refuses to switch to time based transfers instead of point of contact transfers? So for $2.75 you could use your two hour transfer window as if it were a metrocard pass.

I have rode the subway systems in Buffalo Boston, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Toronto, Montreal, Paris, London and Berlin. Especially compared to the European subways, New York is sorely lacking.

An embarrassment.

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jm14ed t1_ire1mlw wrote

The crazy hyperbole from the OP makes it real hard to take anything said seriously.

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jm14ed t1_irbglly wrote

Talk to your legislators and suggest changing the ratio in the law. Let us how that goes.

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