Some other videos filmed in Lower Manhattan (especially more videos filmed on the street close to the Twin Towers and on the Austin J. Tobin plaza) on 9/11

Submitted by Cool-Big1520 t3_yg1qcb in nyc

There used to be a lot more 9/11 videos on the internet back in the mid-late 2000s. Especially more videos of the carnage that took place at/around the World Trade Center, which included some rare angles. Some were recorded blocks away from the towers, others across the rivers, others were recorded on the streets around the WTC complex, and one or more were filmed right on the Austin J. Tobin plaza. During the 2010s, many of them were taken down due to gruesome content, rendering them lost. Some were lost simply because an account was deleted. Now you can't find those videos anywhere on the internet no matter where you look. If these videos are anywhere to be found, it's likely on some hard drives somewhere. In a personal archive created in the 2000s.

Those videos are important for historical archival purposes and those who have created newer personal archives (and those creating non-profit archives) would need them. One example of lost footage (that is being searched for by a number of people right now in fact) is footage taken on the Austin J. Tobin plaza near the base of the North Tower. It's very graphic, as it shows the jumpers up close, but people want it for the historical angle (and some also want it for the plaza Muzak, which is part of the keeping track of absolutely everything that happened on 9/11.) I want to make an educational 9/11 video with as many angles as possible (and as necessary) to cover each perspective. It's more of a personal thing. The lost plaza footage would cover the southern end of the plaza, for example. Unfortunately it's only remembered as a long removed YouTube repost that had a tasteless shock-value title. Nobody knows who originally filmed it. I'd exclude the gore from my supercut, of course.

So if anybody has a 9/11 archive from the 00s or if anyone knows anybody who has a 9/11 archive from the 00s... there might be some unique historical footage in there that those who care to acknowledge the tragedy would watch and archive for themselves. If you're COMFORTABLE with sharing any rare 9/11 footage, you are welcome to. I know all the footage of the event is traumatizing to many and that nobody has to give up stuff they're uncomfortable with sharing or even looking at. So yeah, as long as you're comfortable with sharing those terrifying videos, you can.

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unrulyshape t1_iu7zl6v wrote

This video has the plaza muzak: https://youtu.be/pHf4eqAwrXo?t=355
I found it here which has some other videos: https://elizmizon.substack.com/p/a-peoples-history-of-911

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Cool-Big1520 OP t1_iu8jpf7 wrote

Yeah, the Jack Taliercio tape is the only footage we know of so far that has plaza muzak in it. We don't even know the name of that song yet. (I had couple dreams about it last night.)

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Patrick_Sazey t1_iu96xoi wrote

It's a Billy Joel song. "She's always a woman"

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Cool-Big1520 OP t1_iu9c2m0 wrote

That's the first song heard in the tape. There's a piano song that plays in between that one and the Bee Gees cover that people are trying to identify. That's just a portion of the search for these videos though. The one other known but lost video that has plaza muzak in it could have more of the unknown song, or a completely different song.

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dhdhdfjffjj t1_iu6ujxj wrote

I’m sure you’ve tried web archive, but maybe touch base with them and see if they have other options. Not sure if they store video files but if anyone would know who does it’d be them. If you have a screencap or part of video you might be able to run an image match although it would take a ton of compute resources, but if metadata is preserved could be doable

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Silo-Joe t1_iuc1zj1 wrote

Is your educational video for profit? It isn’t clear what your motives are. If you wanted people to archive the videos, wouldn’t you point them to a place to do that other than to send you their videos?

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Cool-Big1520 OP t1_iuc6ctf wrote

It's not a profit type of thing or a part of any organization. It's personal. The only place I can think of if anybody wanted for now is through email. But I'd need to be PM'd if I wanted to share that information with anybody. Again, this isn't an organization thing. This is mostly about the disappearance of these videos from YouTube. So if one is comfortable, they could upload them there. They could even post a Google Drive link with the videos in it. Maybe it sounded more like I was making it more about the personal stuff I'm doing, but it's mainly about just keeping historical footage visible for everyone. The personal stuff I'm doing is kinda inspired by that, but it's mostly because of Aspergers and how much I feel like acknowledging history. So it's more like half the point of this initial post.

I'm making a supercut that takes on each angle, a personal 9/11 archive, and I'm helping people on Discord look for songs that have played at the WTC complex.

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