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sysyphusishappy t1_iutpxrq wrote

>The rally is set to include Vice President Kamala Harris and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

LOL. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/kamala-harris/

THESE are the people the DNC thought would energize their base?

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actualtext t1_iutrodf wrote

I actually wonder how Clinton polls with New Yorkers given her previous representation of NY as a senator.

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sysyphusishappy t1_iutstbw wrote

I dunno, but the drone strike girlboss routine was already wearing thin like 6 years ago.

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tinoynk t1_iuttzfs wrote

She literally won a national popular vote….. and she obviously won NY handily multiple times on multiple levels……….

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actualtext t1_iutvvai wrote

I’m very well aware of that. I’m asking if that same popularity is still there today. Times have changed. For that matter, I wonder why our current senators aren’t out there showing their support for Hochul instead of the VP. But maybe they have already and I’m not aware.

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dma10014 t1_iuty75p wrote

That Schumer and Gillibrand are not campaigning for Hochul is a sign of her toxicity. Simply put, there's nothing in it for the senators. If Hochul wins, it's business as usual for the senators. If she loses, then they appear weak for campaigning for her in the loss.

Considering that she is basically tied with Zeldin in a state that has 2-1 Democrats to Republicans shows how terrible a candidate she is and the senators want nothing to do with her possible loss.

As for Hillary, well, she's still lusting after a position she lost twice for, so she has some reason for burnishing her campaign credentials. If Hochul wins, then Hillary can claim some handiwork in the result (whether that is true or not doesn't matter since it's the perception of such that matters). And Kamala, well, sending her is Biden's way of saying I want nothing to do with Hochul possibly losing.

And as for Hillary's popularity, I doubt it was ever all that much. I mean it's not Michelle Obama level. Sure, Hillary won NYS Senate seat in 2000 and 2004, and won NY in 2016, but that's a span of 22 years to six years ago. Times are different now.

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SilentSasquatch2 t1_iuu254u wrote

Nothing against Hillary and I’m picking her over Trump 11 out of 10 times like the majority of America did, but who honestly thought this would “fire up the base”?

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virtual_adam t1_iuu5fxz wrote

Last time we voted 55% of voters were over the age of 45. The biggest age group on Reddit is 18-29. I understand how people here are surprised. But for people who actually go out to vote, she will always be a superstar

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