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cC2Panda t1_iy5nzwo wrote

Reply to comment by metafunf in A Rikers Officer Had Sex With a Detainee. It Took 7 Years to Fire Him. by marshall_project

When private unions protect rapists and murders like police/prison guard unions you'll have a point, but as of now Starbucks unions won't be protecting baristas from murder charges so they aren't even in the same ball park. The only real reason people have problems with these unions isn't because of pay and benefits but because they are shield from prison time for crimes they commit, if police were held accountable then very few people would care.

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ThepunfishersGun t1_iy5vopm wrote

Get rid of the laws that protect the murders and rapists and police unions become moot in terms of this nonsense and simply become collective bargaining representatives for cops, like they're supposed to be. For example, drastically change or get rid of qualified immunity for LEO. For heaven's sake, finally make all sexual encounters with those in custody illegal and prosecute sex with those in custody as rape. Uniformed cops should be held to at least the same criminal standards as everyone else, and for damned sure off duty cops who commit a crime shouldn't be given any special protections under the law and should be treated like a civilian.

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cC2Panda t1_iy5w920 wrote

On top of that I think that we should increase polices total annual pension/benefit contributions, but every single lawyers fee and lawsuit should be paid out by the police as a whole. When an abusive asshole is costing every other cop their year end bonus they'll whip him into shape really fucking quick.

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ThepunfishersGun t1_iy63wm7 wrote

I would also include higher ranking officers' pensions/benefits funds in that pool of lawsuit funding. Imagine some sargeant or lieutenant having to pay out because the idiots under them couldn't keep it together when interacting with the public. Do you think they'll stand for having money coming out of their pockets?

Edit: grammar

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fafalone t1_iy7a5jm wrote

Qualified immunity is only for civil lawsuits. There is no legal immunity, just corrupt traditions and union contracts treated like law.

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