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thisisntmineIfoundit t1_iy2fc9e wrote

Reply to comment by carpy22 in A Very Moynihan Train Hall Thanksgiving: 'Wow, I Can't Even Sit Down?' by psychothumbs

Haven’t been there since I last had folks in town but typically the tables in the food court downstairs were…60%+ occupied by homeless. Plus the few rummaging through the bins.

If they’ve corrected that, perhaps during / post covid that’s great.

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carpy22 t1_iy2idsg wrote

It's not great, it completely fucks over commuters that want to grab something to eat before a train, which is what the dining concourse is built for. It's intentionally turning wide swaths of the station into a closed off area at the detriment of commuter convenience.

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thisisntmineIfoundit t1_iy2ix5g wrote

You mean they just don’t let anyone use it at all? Even if you’ve bought something?

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carpy22 t1_iy2jcmu wrote

No, seating has been physically closed off behind locked gates and roped off areas, which has directly negatively impacted me quite a few times recently when wanting to grab something to eat before getting on Metro North to head to Westchester. Maybe when East Side Access opens they'll reopen the seating in the Dining Concourse since one of the main paths to get to the LIRR will be that way but for now it's been intentionally turned into a shell of it's former self.

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thisisntmineIfoundit t1_iy2kh57 wrote

This is a perfect example of policies being too lax (sleep here all day, go through trash, whatever!) until the inevitable harsh over correction.

Curious who made this call and why…if I had to guess it’s similar to why some theft prone Walgreens have security guards that don’t stop you from stealing - theft insurance requires a guard but liability insurance does not want that guard to lay a finger on anyone. This is Grand Central’s version of deodorant locked behind plastic.

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RolandDeepson t1_iy3kipw wrote

Ok. Wherever the next foodservice area gets built, make sure to intentionally refuse to install any seating. Standing-height tables are fine, but no seating.

Lemme know what intended-customer groups think of that after 6 months.

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RolandDeepson t1_iy3ybq2 wrote

Your comment was asinine before I commented, and your reply here is also off base.

I hope you have a pleasant day.

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Wowzlul t1_iy5dlgj wrote

> What is the intended group for a… checks notes… busy train station?

Every big intercity train station I've ever used in Europe has some sit down dining.

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Tough_Wear_5839 t1_iy355ma wrote

Nope, no access. Security guards stand there. . I used to enjoy sitting there with a coffee while waiting for my train. I guess if they open it up it returns to been a mostly homeless encampment. Shame really.

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pm_me_your_rack2 t1_iy2une8 wrote

Of course they do. Not sure where other commenters are coming from, tbh. The food court at Moynihan is not and has not been roped off or closed off behind gates. Perhaps others saw it while these areas were still under construction.

That being said, there isn’t much seating at Moynihan.

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Pennwisedom t1_iy3jm9m wrote

"Grand Central" which they're talking about, is a weird way to spell, "Moynihan."

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