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kanooker OP t1_iwlxu15 wrote

Who are also ok with 80% of guns used in crimes coming from states with lax gun laws. Including private seller laws that allow a private seller to sell to anyone without a background check.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/03/discussing-gun-crime-new-york-means-discussing-guns-bought-other-states

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/firearms-trace-data-new-york-2021

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drpvn t1_iwly0ii wrote

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say in this comment.

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kanooker OP t1_iwly9uf wrote

People who hate bail reform also don't care who has a gun.

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[deleted] t1_iwmjks0 wrote

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kanooker OP t1_iwmjwis wrote

True or false Chris Christie passed bail reform in NJ and it continues to be one of the safest states in the country?

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kanooker OP t1_iwmktcb wrote

You have no idea.....maybe look it up.

What are the statistics of people committing crime out on bail?

Do you have any idea or do I need to look that up for you too?

You realize cops aren't doing their jobs and crime rose because people hurt their feelings right?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-murder-spike-of-2020-when-police-pull-back-11626969547

https://archive.ph/x7rfc

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drpvn t1_iwlzkit wrote

Not always true. I dislike bail reform and I’m pro gun control.

And like I said, some of the people who lobbied for bail reform were directly involved in the Second Amendment case that overturned NY’s gun restrictions. I’m talking about the Bronx Defenders and other defenders’ offices.

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kanooker OP t1_iwlztes wrote

Some things do happen in this world, like how you are pro gun control and anti-bail reform. Most of these people however are unlike you and don't want restrictions on guns.

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drpvn t1_iwm23li wrote

Things do happen, like public defenders’ offices who support bail reform also opposing NY’s gun restrictions. But guilt by association is an unreliable heuristic.

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kanooker OP t1_iwm2pyy wrote

Yet those people don't represent the overwhelming majority of VOTERS on the right who hate bail reform, and also hate restrictions on guns.... or the left who are pro bail reform and pro gun restrictions. But now you're gonna make a case for bears who shit in NYC, and not the woods.

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drpvn t1_iwm4tsn wrote

Just make an argument about bail reform on its merits. Guilt by association is a weak argument.

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kanooker OP t1_iwm4yua wrote

Wait isn't op associating gun ownership with guilt?

Woooooosh

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