Submitted by im_coolest t3_zqyjlj in nyc
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mikoartss t1_j10scga wrote
I really should have a Tweeter account.
marketingguy420 t1_j10smbx wrote
...Because that's what they did lol. You held onto a leather strap attached to the poles of the train decades ago. We still say "hang up the phone" and will use countless idioms long after their original meanings evaporate.
mangotree12 t1_j10tric wrote
NY Post is the only time I’ve ever seen that term used and I hate it too. Also agreed it sounds demeaning. Nobody would ever self describe themselves as a straphanger wtf
drpvn t1_j10v70z wrote
Demeaning? It’s a reference to the straps that used to hang on subways. Everybody who didn’t arrive in NYC ten minutes ago knows what it means.
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robul0n t1_j10y724 wrote
I agree with you it sounds kind of negative, but cramming into a packed train every morning on your way to work kind of sucks, so I think it's apt.
Crafty-Flower-7390 t1_j10ywub wrote
How does this happen?
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twelvydubs t1_j10zqfk wrote
Idk, that negative connotation might just be you. I'm in my mid-20's, so I'm not that old, and I still remember there were train cars and buses where there actually were straps that you hold onto when you're standing.
And no, it wasn't just the NY Post that used that term, I remember reading/hearing it from all over growing up, NY1, NY Daily News, NY Times, local news, etc.
I do agree that the term is pretty outdated and out of fashion, but to say it's like a curse word is kinda projecting....
twelvydubs t1_j10ztky wrote
Only on this sub are there weirdos that get triggered by the word "straphanger"
Darbies t1_j110ym2 wrote
I don't get triggered, but it is always the NY Post that uses the term and I think that's interesting. I'm actually quite shocked the article title doesn't say straphanger and this person used the term on their own. Like actually shocked lol.
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manticorpse t1_j114cn8 wrote
Get a grip, man.
Meteorboy t1_j1178xe wrote
I know why you don't like the term: it implies low class, that only poor people take the subway. They stand in a subway and hold onto a strap on their way to work. It's not comfortable or convenient as driving a car. Living in NYC is expensive and we pay a lot to live in tiny apartments. But there isn't really a negative connotation more than calling someone who jumps off a bridge a jumper.
sternfan1523 t1_j117vf9 wrote
my worst nightmare...how does this happen?
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drpvn t1_j11a0xb wrote
Lol, you’re not going to get away with this absurd reaction by playing up the “the Post does it so it must be bad” angle.
kjuneja t1_j11a58q wrote
Rtfa
>The 44-year-old man and 63-year-old woman were riding between cars on a moving northbound L train at West 14th Street and Sixth Avenue just before 10:30 a.m., according to cops and the sources.
>Witnesses told investigators it appeared one of the victims may have slipped onto the tracks in a suicide attempt — and the other fell while trying to grab them, police sources said.
Darbies t1_j11b3ck wrote
I'm not going for any angle, just commenting on someone else's comment, but sure okay! (I upvoted your comment! lol)
drpvn t1_j11b74y wrote
I’m onto you, you disgusting straphanger!
gh234ip t1_j11czft wrote
All subway trains are designated with a North and South terminal regardless if the route goes East/West. 8th ave on the L is the South terminal and Canarsie is the North, just s Main St. on the 7 is North and 34th is South
HiFiGuy197 t1_j11egst wrote
If anything, this tragedy was caused by a distinct failure to strap (or pole) hang.
movingtobay2019 t1_j11k3wx wrote
How do you slip onto the tracks in a suicide attempt? Either you slip and it was an accident or you want to commit suicide and you didn't slip at all.
Who the fuck wrote this lol.
GarysCrispLettuce t1_j11lwot wrote
NY Post is garbage, the Daily News is marginally better and as usual they have the more detailed take. No mention of a suicide attempt, it appears the man was trying to help a woman who had slipped between cars whilst the train was in the station, and he couldn't get back up in time before the train moved and he ended up wedged between the train and the platform. She was obviously still under the train and was also killed. This was an absolutely horrific occurrence.
Personally I think it's fucking ridiculous that unspeakably horrible shit like this is still able to happen in the New York subway in 2022. Firstly, are you telling me that nobody else on that train or on the platform at 10:30am in a busy Manhattan station noticed that something was going on between cars, and informed the conductor? Secondly, trains should not be able to proceed when there are people on the tracks. The technology has existed for years.
twelvydubs t1_j11rl1x wrote
> I don't get triggered, but it is always the NY Post that uses the term and I think that's interesting.
Except it's....not always the NY Post? It's a pretty common term used throughout NYC media
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/26/nyregion/for-voice-of-straphangers-a-journey-without-stops.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/14/nyregion/if-a-pregnant-straphangers-bump-isnt-obvious-maybe-the-button-will-be.html
https://www.amny.com/news/deranged-man-harlem-stabbed-straphanger/
https://www.amny.com/new-york/nyc-straphangers-speak-out-subway-safety/
https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/not-even-anne-hathaway-can-cheer-up-the-saddest-straphanger
And this is just from a quick 3 minute search.
Like I've mentioned in another post it's a term I've seen thrown around everywhere since I was a baby. Is it an outdated term? Sure. But only on this sub are weirdos so bothered by it
hangrywich t1_j11v2nk wrote
Anyone able to pull death rate stats per passenger for MTA vs other metropolitan cities? 2022 vs say 2012?
meantnothingatall t1_j11ycfd wrote
I was going to say I used to hear it on the news all of the time. 🤷♂️
Pastatively t1_j12at6v wrote
If you fall into the tracks, run, on the tracks, to the end of the platform. There is a ladder down there to get back to platform. It’s the best way to survive a fall into the tracks.
Smooth-Detail1799 t1_j12ed2q wrote
I take it that it’s at both ends of the platform? And you are, of course, talking about NYC trains right? Thanks
TSSAlex t1_j12eztb wrote
8 Av is North, Canarsie is South.
opportunitysure066 t1_j12fjqe wrote
Thanks, good to know
froggythefish t1_j12g7xb wrote
>both ends of the platform
Hopefully, you’ll just have to guess, lmao
gh234ip t1_j12imak wrote
OK, I had 50/50 chance. Last time I was on the L train we were still in the 20th century
LongIsland1995 t1_j12mffq wrote
Depending on the station, there might be space below the platforms too. It will be disgusting and rat infested, but MUCH better than getting hit by a train
Flivver_King t1_j12rf9w wrote
There's a blue light on the tracks where you can shut the third rail power off for that track block of the station too.
Rottimer t1_j12sakq wrote
By the way folks - THIS is the appropriate scenario to pull the emergency brake. If he saw her slip in between the cars, the FIRST thing he should have done was pull the emergency break, then attempt to help her.
ctindel t1_j12sukn wrote
What's astounding is that they were hit by 2 more trains AFTER they were killed by the first one.
https://abc7ny.com/subway-person-struck-mta-train/12593529/
"Police say a 44-year-old man and a 63-year-old woman had been hit by a train shortly before 10:30 Tuesday morning.
After the first train hit the victims, a source close to the investigation confirms to Eyewitness News two subsequent trains ran over their bodies amid confusion from 911 callers about where the incident had occurred."
Dont_mute_me_bro t1_j13ffuv wrote
Human life is sacred and I have nothing but sympathy for the families and friends. That said...why not jump off a pier or bridge and not gum up the subway for tens of thousands?
Pastatively t1_j13thp8 wrote
Yes NYC subway tracks. Ideally you should run to the front of the platform so the train (assuming it’s not an express train) will stop before it hits you.
Pork-Roll t1_j143irs wrote
That's an interesting explanation. I guess I just see it as anyone who uses the train. I stand up almost all the time, and everyone from suits to overnight workers use it.
Trick_Section_233 t1_j143qq2 wrote
They weren’t trying to commit suicide. A elderly woman fell and the man trying to help her was killed
Something_Berserker t1_j14cfki wrote
These are for trained track workers to use. There are protocols (which I will not get into on Reddit) that need to be followed to cut the power. Simply pulling the lever in these boxes will NOT cut the power. If someone is on the tracks call 911 and/or find an MTA employee. Do not enter the tracks to pull the emergency box.
libertiac t1_j14fufg wrote
That's not going to do anything. Train Operator are instructed to coast to a platform or exit if you loose power.
Your better off going to the end of the customer platform in the direction the train is coming and turn your flashlight from your phone and frantically move your hand towards the train. Train Operators are instructed to stop immediately.
volkommm t1_j14of2o wrote
Under the platform is not necessarily any safer. The contact shoe will rip your ankles off and promptly electrocute you with 600V DC.
ctindel t1_j155qq0 wrote
Don't ride between the train cars and you'll be fine.
Its_Just_Luck t1_j156n2f wrote
Idk who downvoted you but this comment is accurate.
Dont_mute_me_bro t1_j15j35o wrote
Terrible.
Why is an elderly woman walking in between cars on a moving train?
bree718 t1_j15vb4d wrote
Either end?? I’d prob be in too much of a panic to know which the right direction would be lmao
Pastatively t1_j16xl5s wrote
Ideally run toward the front so you can be clear of the train when it stops in the station. But if you are closer to the back you’ll have to make a quick decision. But front is better in case the ladder is not in the back.
Flivver_King t1_j171czd wrote
It's not going to stop a train but it might keep someone from being fried by the third rail.
thegameksk t1_j188pmx wrote
They tried using that tech with lines like the L that self drive. Problem is the rats. So the trains wouldn't move at all.
thegameksk t1_j188tbc wrote
Why didn't the guy tell the conductor or operator? Doing what he did is the absolute worst thing you can do.
mommaswetbedsheets t1_j1bom1m wrote
Confusiom from callers or operators and mta not stopping trains in time. Blame the citizen. Gosh.
drpvn t1_j10pm7p wrote
That has to hurt like hell.