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_Maxolotl t1_iziu4no wrote

"delivery apps will just add another fee to the end of the bill"
-If that ensures riders get paid fair wages, fine.
"people will stop tipping delivery drivers entirely"
-Servers in a lot of NYC restaurants make $23 bucks an hour or more before tips, and they still get tipped. Douchebags may want to stop tipping delivery riders entirely, but a significant percentage of local douchebags probably already tip meagerly or not at all.

Can deliveristas communicate with each other and blacklist customers on a forum that the apps can't control? Seems like if people who didn't tip stopped getting their orders accepted, it might have an effect on tipping. There are some restrictions on how independent contractors are allowed to organize due to unintended consequences of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, but I'm pretty sure they can still tell each other "that customer sucks. don't serve them."

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MajorAcer t1_izj14eq wrote

I would greatly prefer the food to be slightly more expensive if we could just get rid of tipping. It's ridiculous that I'm already paying for food and service, but am still expected to give up extra cash for no reason whatsoever - especially when it's before I even get the food so who knows how good the quality of service even is? And this is coming from someone who used to deliver for Uber Eats.

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_Maxolotl t1_izj6yj2 wrote

It would be great if we could force the delivery apps to classify riders as employees.

It'd also be great if the US hadn't made a bunch of laws in the 20th century that makes it much more difficult for workers to unionize and strike than it is in most of the rest of the free world.

I would be happy with deliveristas getting $23/hour for an 8 hour shift... if they got health benefits and death benefits, because it's one of the most dangerous jobs in NYC.

Until we can make that happen, I will fully support them if they manage to organize well enough to successfully boycott bad tippers. They gotta get what they need. It's the law's fault they don't have easy ways to do that.

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