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simeonbachos t1_j1xw9c9 wrote

Reply to comment by oyoshimaru in MTA surpasses 1 billion subway riders in 2022, a first in Covid era by geoxol

On what grounds

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xwri7 wrote

well there this article that states the estimates 500 million dollar loss to fare evaders. at 2.75 that puts it at around 181M in evaders per year.

or you know just living here.

https://www.police1.com/transit-police/articles/mta-nypd-struggle-to-rein-in-rising-fare-evasion-on-nyc-buses-subways-JuKcScLkr42Ml6jo/

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simeonbachos t1_j1xwxus wrote

> bus and subway

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xx57i wrote

well theres this article about the subway estimates at 9.8%. what exactly is your argument? do you not ride the subway?

https://nypost.com/2022/05/22/mta-losing-119m-and-counting-to-fare-evasion-officials-say/

edit: wrong link

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simeonbachos t1_j1xxnkl wrote

That 9.8% of riders report beating a fare doesn’t mean that 1 in 100 rides out of a billion are stolen. That’s my argument

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xxwf7 wrote

thats exactly what it means, that there are 98 million rides stolen out of every 1 billion…

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simeonbachos t1_j1xxyfz wrote

No, riders aren’t rides. I’m one rider, I’m how many rides in a year?

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oyoshimaru t1_j1xymwp wrote

not sure how to make it clearer for you. MTA claimed 62M in subway losses in 1 Quarter of the year. 248M annualized, thats 90M rides in 2021, that apparently had less than. 1B rides, thats higher than 9% of rides.

if you rode the subway youd know how common fare evasion is…

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