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spoil_of_the_cities t1_j07cr4u wrote

So we're used to developments where the affordable housing units are mixed with normal units, here seems like they're mixing homeless shelter units with affordable housing units.

Seems good if they properly select the residents, but not gonna do anything for people who won't go to the shelter

Do these places allow drugs?

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MillennialNightmare OP t1_j07lprj wrote

Supportive housing developments are not homeless shelters.

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spoil_of_the_cities t1_j07nn8f wrote

Having a hard time figuring out these fine distinctions between places the city sends homeless people. Certainly apartment-style shelters have existed a long time, family shelters and safe havens. I guess the difference here is the nonprofit makes its money by taking 30% of the resident's SS/disability/welfare check rather than by charging the city?

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ammar825 t1_j08er5u wrote

There’s a lot of things that are difficult to do when you’re at a shelter because it isn’t a permanent residence. You aren’t allowed to stay forever. Having a lease in your name isn’t just a technical difference, it can be a requirement for a lot of things like training programs, credit cards, etc.

And the city contracts many of its supportive services to non-profits; they’ve been doing it longer and know the communities better.

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Darrackodrama t1_j07u1vu wrote

More barriers to entry and selection of tenants just like an apartment building, whereas homeless shelters operate under specific mandates, they have more latitude to build healthier communities and exclude problematic tenants

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MillennialNightmare OP t1_j082nyz wrote

Shelters are temporary, holdover solutions until a person can be housed. Permanent supportive housing is the permanent, end goal solution.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j0dxz6g wrote

>Do these places allow drugs?

That's a crucial question.

In SF, the permanent supportive housing program has an overdose death rate more than 16x compared to the general population (they house less than 1% of the pop, but has more than 16% of overdose deaths), but SF pols have been trying to sweep those concern aside for political reasons...

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