Submitted by greenhousecrtv t3_zmaorp in nyc
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shant_jan t1_j0c6asc wrote
if I'm remembering this right, the Manhattan DA oversees a lot of corporate cases that result in financial penalties that essentially get paid to that office so they essentially have a massive discretionary fund.
I think last time I remember the DA did something like this it was allocating funding for other localities to actually process their massively backlogged rape kits.
1600hazenstreet t1_j0d6k6q wrote
They also supplied funding for NYPD to use iPhones, back in the days when they were using Micrsoft mobile devices.
PuzzleheadedWalrus71 t1_j0b75tv wrote
Thrive didn't do shit with almost a billion dollars - what's 9 million going to do?
ShadownetZero t1_j0c6yma wrote
> Thrive didn't do shit with almost a billion dollars
Thrive did a lot with that money!
^^^Nothing ^^^of ^^^value ^^^for ^^^the ^^^city, ^^^of ^^^course, ^^^but ^^^it ^^^padded ^^^more ^^^than ^^^a ^^^few ^^^people's ^^^pockets!
Grass8989 t1_j0bc0ge wrote
Going to pad his buddies “non-profits”, with no noticeable change, mostly likely.
ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j0bihj0 wrote
Which non profits are those? I always see people blame non profits but those groups are often the ones actually providing services and trying to help…. Sure there’s some shady non profits out there, but you could say that for literally any line of business.
Grass8989 t1_j0biz28 wrote
Im assuming he hasn’t specified which particular ones he’s funding yet, but I mean can you blame anyone for being skeptical? ThriveNYC was a complete disaster and made nearly no noticeable different in anything that could help the mentally ill population.
ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j0bjb9e wrote
Sure but thrive had very little to do with traditional non profits. They worked with a couple that the mayor and his life were working with. Meanwhile the city has some of the oldest most storied non profits working on this issue in the world. Just seems shitty to rope in folks at places like the Catholic Worker with Thrive NYC
Grass8989 t1_j0bjkjs wrote
There are for sure some non-profits that do good work, but there really needs to be more oversight on how they are appropriating their funds.
ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j0bjsif wrote
Eh, I think most non profits barely scrape by. Could focus on the big ones, but focusing on small non profits that barely scrape by as is and forcing them into more regulation seems a recipe for disaster.
Why them and not say the billion dollar development or construction companies that cash government contracts all day?
Grass8989 t1_j0bk9t1 wrote
I mean everyone on here constantly brings up the salaries of city employees/civil servants and that nearly everyone is committing “overtime fraud”. Why should non profits, who are also getting funds from the city, be able to hide their financials?
ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j0bkga8 wrote
They can’t, and don’t. But let’s not pretend people don’t frequently just say “it’s the non profits!” When reality is that most non profits are tiny, pay very little salary and are filled with people just trying to improve the city or provide essential social services.
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derepeco t1_j0cg186 wrote
Maybe try doing a little research before spouting off. Non-profits have to file a tax return just like everyone else. You honestly thought the IRS was just like “sure, we trust you’re actually a non profit if you say you are. No further documentation necessary!” 😵💫
Rottimer t1_j0bprci wrote
It’s Bragg, not Adams. You might disagree with Bragg politically and how he does his job, but there is no indication at all that he grifts like Adams.
ShadownetZero t1_j0c6qe7 wrote
Great. Now resign.
PandaJ108 t1_j0eoe1q wrote
He doing this while giving career criminals sweet deals.
Gangbanger tied to high-end NYC heists gets sweetheart deal from DA Alvin Bragg
“Charles Lindsay — a reputed member of the “Rich Fam” gang, which has a history of pulling off pricey robberies — was last hauled into court Dec. 10 for allegedly stealing nearly $25,000 in pricey handbags and other items from Madison Avenue boutiques, according to sources and court records
Lindsay, 22, is also a suspect in the rape of a 15-year-old girl in May in Brooklyn, as well as a February grand larceny and a robbery in March, sources said.
But in court last week, prosecutors agreed to drop the four grand larceny charges against Lindsay if just attends five sessions with Manhattan Justice Opportunities, an alternative sentencing program designed for low-level offenders.”
Steals 25K worth of property and has to attend five sessions. What incentive does he have to stop?
dayda t1_j0bq3do wrote
Recommend listening to the video. Bragg gives two imaginative anecdotes of how the program will go. It answers a lot of questions. In both anecdotes he doesn’t actually suggest any outcome. He paints a picture of prolonged sustaining of adverse situations and mitigation of problems, rather than treatment or a solution based around the larger public sphere and their place in it. It’s not that this isn’t a noble stance - it has a place in any city. Compassionate people connecting those in need with services are important. But…
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That’s already being done and $9 million being sent to a separate new program with growing pains, rather than established private non prof orgs who do it better than the city, is not well thought out.
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This isn’t the mandate of the DA. The court side of this program is an extension of his dept’s policies towards prosecution (not here to argue if that’s good or bad btw). Beyond that, this program is out of his wheelhouse. He’s putting his face on it as an activist, not as a DA. Why don’t we meet the people in charge instead?
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His examples of how he thinks this program will run are going to be rare and best case scenarios. What’s the plan for the worst case scenarios? Will this program have any crossover with the mayors or is this actually an alternative suggestion?
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He cites recidivism three times as a major point of this program, but what I heard doesn’t seem to tackle that issue at all. It only suggests getting the same resources they offer outside the court, inside the court as well once arrested.
Other questions include: Does he have a plan for ongoing funding? Staff attrition and turnover? Violent crime situations?
As with many things from Bragg and a lot of activists in his inner circle, I commend them for what they want to do, but they seem to ignore reality and call it compassion just a bit too much. Just my $0.02.
NetQuarterLatte t1_j0bryws wrote
His first part about intervention ("neighborhood navigator") that are not linked to "criminal justice conduct" is just really problematic.
A prosecutor-led program going around the community and flagging people will contribute to criminal-stigmatization and just alienate people who need to be reached.
This is so short sighted.
NetQuarterLatte t1_j0bqbf5 wrote
Does this mean that Bragg will not allow the release of anyone back to the street without screening them for severe and untreated mental health issues?
That seems like an obvious thing to do. Don't let those few crazy people go back to the street without treatment (to commit crimes).
Edit: from the press-conference, that will be all voluntary for the defendants. I hope to be proven wrong, but this appears to be a completely toothless effort.
Grass8989 t1_j0btrmd wrote
“Hi I know you haven’t willingly accepted help from any of the non-profits or DHS or the Dept of Mental Health and Hygiene up until this point, how about now?”
NetQuarterLatte t1_j0bucxp wrote
Maybe underneath all the fluff from the press conference, there is actually some tooth.
I guess what they might really be doing is:
"<prosecutor>: Hi, you were arrested for this alleged crime. How about you accept this mental health program, or else we will throw the book at you? We reserve the right to use a refusal as an evidence against you."
Grass8989 t1_j0bv6no wrote
That would be ideal, “throwing the book” at them is not likely tho.
ShadownetZero t1_j0c73kp wrote
> Does this mean that Bragg will not allow the release of anyone back to the street without screening them for severe and untreated mental health issues?
That sounds like something his role is responsible for. So no.
derepeco t1_j0cgd28 wrote
Great, another voluntary program that will accomplish nothing. Adams’ program is the only hope we have.
throwwaway3123 t1_j0cm8ne wrote
I swear this idiot is allergic to doing his job responsibilities
IllTransportation141 t1_j0czar2 wrote
Fat fuck.
Myske1 t1_j0bhiof wrote
I’m all for improving mental health, but what does this have to do with Bragg’s job? The DA runs the office that prosecutes criminals in Manhattan. The city has a Department of Health and Mental Hygiene for this.